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Old 12-16-2018, 03:25 PM   #1
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So you were not pleased when the remains of servicemen were finally brought home to be laid to rest ?

Too much eggnog for you today as you hit submit after a 1st grader stole your laptop.
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Clearly you see that as something special Trump did ...

I saw it for is was the duty of any POTUS to bring all service members if they can do so .. it wasn't special

So yes a positive outcome for Trumps Image ...and closure from those family's but since then he has done little to improve his image or his admistration which has a revolving door
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Old 12-17-2018, 07:19 AM   #2
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Clearly you see that as something special Trump did ...

I saw it for is was the duty of any POTUS to bring all service members if they can do so .. it wasn't special

So yes a positive outcome for Trumps Image ...and closure from those family's but since then he has done little to improve his image or his admistration which has a revolving door
I was pleased Trump was able to bring them home. This has nothing to do with image. My guess is that there were many families and colleagues who thought it was special. But when you said you were waiting for positive action I thought this action would qualify. Would you put this action above or below trading prisoners for Bowe Bergdahl?
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Old 12-17-2018, 07:52 AM   #3
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I was pleased Trump was able to bring them home. This has nothing to do with image. My guess is that there were many families and colleagues who thought it was special. But when you said you were waiting for positive action I thought this action would qualify. Would you put this action above or below trading prisoners for Bowe Bergdahl?
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As i said its the duty of any sitting POTUS to bring any service member home dead or alive ...

We leave no one behind... even Bowe Bergdahl? who was court martial and dishonorably discharged...


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Mr. Trump’s comments may have contributed to the decision not to sentence him to prison. After Mr. Trump seemed last month to endorse his harsh criticism from the campaign trail, Colonel Nance ruled that he would consider the comments as mitigating evidence at sentencing. some military law experts said, on the grounds that the president had unlawfully influenced the case.

if i could only believe Trump is driven by doing the right thing in what he does ...

But 99% of what he does and say's is for image ... that's his character..

all former POTUS have done and said things for image but clearly they never saw it as a way to govern as Trump see it and uses it...
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As i said its the duty of any sitting POTUS to bring any service member home dead or alive ...

We leave no one behind... even Bowe Bergdahl? who was court martial and dishonorably discharged
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Mr. Trump’s comments may have contributed to the decision not to sentence him to prison. After Mr. Trump seemed last month to endorse his harsh criticism from the campaign trail, Colonel Nance ruled that he would consider the comments as mitigating evidence at sentencing. some military law experts said, on the grounds that the president had unlawfully influenced the case.

if i could only believe Trump is driven by doing the right thing in what he does ...

But 99% of what he does and say's is for image ... that's his character..

all former POTUS have done and said things for image but clearly they never saw it as a way to govern as Trump see it and uses it...
So he was able to accomplish something that his predecessors could not get done. You,as is par for the course,fail to recognize that as something positive, despite the fact it heals the nation and certainly the families directly involved. No surprise here as you have an agenda to uphold. Party blind as usual. To think that you put this on the same table as negotiating with terrorists says a lot about your intellectual integrity.
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So he was able to accomplish something that his predecessors could not get done. You,as is par for the course,fail to recognize that as something positive, despite the fact it heals the nation and certainly the families directly involved. No surprise here as you have an agenda to uphold. Party blind as usual.
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Bingo. Trump could save babies from a burning building (not that I'd expect that he'd do that), and they wouldn't give him credit. They can't, they just can't.
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Bingo. Trump could save babies from a burning building (not that I'd expect that he'd do that), and they wouldn't give him credit. They can't, they just can't.
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Your conception of reaping is very narrow. We are reaping the fruits of the Progressive attack on the Constitution, as was warned many times. But the grab of power was far more important to them than any consequences to them and the rest of us. So now we are reaping unsustainable debt, identity politics, creation of dozens and a growing number of non-biological genders, unchecked federal power, weakening of the middle class, loss of individual rights, loss of local and state sovereignty as well as a direction of losing our nation's sovereignty to a world order, among several other things . . . including Donald Trump.
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HW Bush deserved to be called a wimp and an adulterer? McCain deserved to be called a senile old racist? Romney deserved to be called a sexist?

Trump is an example of YOU reaping what YOU sow.

He's not a victim. Maybe you hadn't heard, but he won the election.
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So how do you explain the fact that the GOP controls the white house, the senate, and a majority of state legislatures and governorships?

Is this your side, reaping what they sow? Or does that phrase only apply to the GOP when they lose, not to democrats?
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So he was able to accomplish something that his predecessors could not get done. You,as is par for the course,fail to recognize that as something positive, despite the fact it heals the nation and certainly the families directly involved. No surprise here as you have an agenda to uphold. Party blind as usual. To think that you put this on the same table as negotiating with terrorists says a lot about your intellectual integrity.
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when your argument is .. I have agenda to uphold what's yours insults and drive by's ?



I said it was not special .. it did give closure for those family's

unlike you I judge him on the totality of his actions not the one time he did something positive..

"To think that you put this on the same table as negotiating with terrorists says a lot about your intellectual integrity."

Seem you forgot who Trump went to visit in North korea and negotiated with to have those remains returned and you what does that say about your your intellectual integrity."

funny I saw it as POTUS duty to get thoses men home .. you see it ok for Trump to deal with Kim but Not Obama with the taliban to get an american home ... ???


U.S. Officials Meet With Taliban Again as Trump Pushes Afghan Peace Process OMG say it ain't so!!! Trump negotiates with terrorist
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when your argument is .. I have agenda to uphold what's yours insults and drive by's ?



I said it was not special .. it did give closure for those family's

unlike you I judge him on the totality of his actions not the one time he did something positive..

"To think that you put this on the same table as negotiating with terrorists says a lot about your intellectual integrity."

Seem you forgot who Trump went to visit in North korea and negotiated with to have those remains returned and you what does that say about your your intellectual integrity."

funny I saw it as POTUS duty to get thoses men home .. you see it ok for Trump to deal with Kim but Not Obama with the taliban to get an american home ... ???


U.S. Officials Meet With Taliban Again as Trump Pushes Afghan Peace Process OMG say it ain't so!!! Trump negotiates with terrorist
When you said you would be on the lookout for his positive actions I thought pointing out a positive action might be a good reminder. Instead of conceding this was a positive action you decided to say it was his duty. If Obama had done this the left would have given him the Nobel peace prize. Can it not be both his duty as well as a positive action given the fact it had been close to 50 years and none of his predecessors had fulfilled their “duty”?
The fact you characterize a deserter in the same breath as those who made the ultimate sacrifice says a mouthful about your personal integrity. Truly disgraceful.
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The fact you characterize a deserter in the same breath as those who made the ultimate sacrifice says a mouthful about your personal integrity. Truly disgraceful.
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Unlike you I don't pick and choose which Americans DESERVE TO COME HOME over others . What's it like to ride on such a high horse and to be so arrogant willing to Leave any American in the hands of an enemy . For 1 min no less 5 years

Some leader you would have made if you were ever in the service .. willing to leaving men behind and you speak of personal integrity. As if you know what it means


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The U.S. Army has prosecuted about 1,900 cases of desertion since 2001, despite tens of thousands of soldiers fleeing the service in the face of deadly combat, long and multiple deployments in Iraq and Afghanistan
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unlike you I judge him on the totality of his actions
What's the most complimentary thing you've said about him thus far? That he's Hitler?
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