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Old 10-26-2018, 08:26 AM   #1
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"it’s likely that political views are not reflected in charitable giving."

In other words, you have no basis whatsoever to claim that liberals are more generous, but you just can't bear to say it out loud.'

Would it be possible that political affiliation has no demonstrable correlation with charitable giving? Or is everything driven by politics?

"How does the increase in take home pay affect tax deductions for charitable giving?"

Increases in take-home pay give us more disposable income with which to make donations. Is that really going too fast for you.

You do understand that deductions for charitable giving increase the amount you can give without affecting your spendable income, and that changing how deductions worked greatly reduced the advantages of giving.

Pete, here is every single post you have ever made, boiled down to this...

liberal=good, conservative=bad.

I wonder what you'd say about why the state of CT is going bankrupt.
Of course it's the Liberals bankrupting CT, left to their own devices Conservatives would make it as good as Kansas.
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Old 10-26-2018, 09:06 AM   #2
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Nothing will work well, till people work together.
That's why communism works so well.
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Old 10-26-2018, 09:10 AM   #3
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Of course it's the Liberals bankrupting CT, left to their own devices Conservatives would make it as good as Kansas.
Nothing will work well, till people work together.
"You do understand that deductions for charitable giving increase the amount you can give without affecting your spendable income"

No I do not understand that, because it's absolutely false. There is a huge difference between a tax credit and a deduction. You are confusing the two.

If I donate $100 to charity, and I am able to deduct that $100 from my taxable income, and I'm in a 25% tax bracket, that means I get $25 back. I do not, not even close, get the whole $100 back. Deductions do not, not even close, restore your full disposable income. Deductions reduce the amount by which your disposable income decreases. Deductions do not make it 'free' to donate to charity.

The tax cuts give most of us more take-home pay. Many of us will give some of that to charity.

Take accounting 101. A tax credit is a dollar-for-dollar reduction is taxes owed. A deduction reduces your tax liability by pennies on the dollar, not dollar for dollar.
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Old 10-26-2018, 09:47 AM   #4
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"You do understand that deductions for charitable giving increase the amount you can give without affecting your spendable income"

No I do not understand that, because it's absolutely false. There is a huge difference between a tax credit and a deduction. You are confusing the two.

If I donate $100 to charity, and I am able to deduct that $100 from my taxable income, and I'm in a 25% tax bracket, that means I get $25 back. I do not, not even close, get the whole $100 back. Deductions do not, not even close, restore your full disposable income. Deductions reduce the amount by which your disposable income decreases. Deductions do not make it 'free' to donate to charity.

The tax cuts give most of us more take-home pay. Many of us will give some of that to charity.

Take accounting 101. A tax credit is a dollar-for-dollar reduction is taxes owed. A deduction reduces your tax liability by pennies on the dollar, not dollar for dollar.
When did I say everyone gets it all back, as you say, your $100 donation costs you $75, because you are rebated $25. How does it reduce your spendable income $100

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When did I say everyone gets it all back, as you say, your $100 donation costs you $75, because you are rebated $25. How does it reduce your spendable income $100
do you not even read what you post? you said that thanks to deductions, charitable giving doesn’t effect disposable income. that’s absurd, unless you are in a 100 percent tax bracket. which is something you’d probably endorse.
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Old 10-26-2018, 10:55 AM   #7
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do you not even read what you post? you said that thanks to deductions, charitable giving doesn’t effect disposable income. that’s absurd, unless you are in a 100 percent tax bracket. which is something you’d probably endorse.
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You're correct, there is a fault in my wording.
I should have written: You do understand that deductions for charitable giving can increase the amount you can give, dependent on your tax situation, without affecting your spendable income.

Why would you think that I would endorse that?

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