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Old 10-22-2018, 06:36 PM   #1
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How about because they’re desperate to flee violence. What would you do if it was your kids? How much Kool Aid have you drank this week?
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How about because they’re desperate to flee violence. What would you do if it was your kids? How much Kool Aid have you drank this week?
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How many are you taking in your home since you are all for it ???
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Old 10-22-2018, 09:31 PM   #3
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If they're seeking asylum as refugees, by UN law they must do so in the first country they enter, which, in this case, would be Mexico. They should be stopped at our border and returned to Mexico for the Asylum process. https://cis.org/Cadman/Why-Shouldnt-...-Asylum-Mexico

On the other hand, instead of being generous to 7-10 thousand at a time, we should just go ahead and import the entire populations of Honduras and Guatemala. That would finally take care of the reputedly serious problems for the millions of people that need to escape those dangerous hell holes where the people are starved and murdered and raped and enslaved (though they look pretty well fed in the photos and videos and must be in pretty good health to trek on such a long journey on foot, and they should, you know, for good and neighborly optics, wave American flags instead of those of the place from whence they are trying to escape and maybe not have signs and shouts that sound a bit threatening and demanding which might upset a little bit our fine folks here).

So doing that we would also solve our continuous problem of having to deal with caravans and coyotes and other pesky problems that politicians use as a wedge issue. And we could seriously virtue signal to the rest of the world that we are truly a compassionate people. And then the world would truly love us.

Maybe we could take in all the Mexicans too . . . and the Venezuelans . . . and

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Old 10-23-2018, 07:50 AM   #4
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I can't imagine the desperation some of these people feel who are born into the worst places on the planet. But the sad fact is, we cannot come close to taking in everyone whose lives would be better here, we cannot come close to doing that. Do you agree?

What we can do, and should do, is work to make their home countries, less awful. I'm pretty sure that's what the UN was supposed to be for, maybe we can remind them of that.

Once again rather than honestly admit the facts, the left (you in this case) immediately portray those who disagree with you, as being hatemongers who have no empathy for these people. It's not remotely true. Right now, there are people waiting in line in other crappy places, waiting for their chance to come legally.
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I think anyone believing this is a plot and organized for the mid terms has clearly been wearing a tin foil hat far too tightly. I'd also agree Mexico should be the country stepping up to offer asylum to these people.
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I think anyone believing this is a plot and organized for the mid terms has clearly been wearing a tin foil hat far too tightly. I'd also agree Mexico should be the country stepping up to offer asylum to these people.
By taking on thousands of refugees, however, Mexico is relieving the burden on the overloaded U.S. courts. Mexico also detains large numbers of undocumented Central Americans who are not applying for refugee status here, and deports them back to their home countries. In fiscal year 2017, Mexico deported more than 94,000 Central Americans – even more than the 74,000 deported from the United States in the same time, according to figures from the Migration Policy Institute cited by the newspaper Reforma.

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By taking on thousands of refugees, however, Mexico is relieving the burden on the overloaded U.S. courts. Mexico also detains large numbers of undocumented Central Americans who are not applying for refugee status here, and deports them back to their home countries. In fiscal year 2017, Mexico deported more than 94,000 Central Americans – even more than the 74,000 deported from the United States in the same time, according to figures from the Migration Policy Institute cited by the newspaper Reforma.
From what you say here, it is apparent that Mexico could easily send the Central American caravan back to their homes. Why does Mexico allow them in their country? I've read that sympathetic Mexicans have been helping and cheering on the growing caravan as it continues north. But their sympathy doesn't seem to extend to offering the caravan sanctuary in Mexico.
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Regardless of whether this is plotted or not. One thing is for sure is we cannot let any of them in.

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Regardless of whether this is plotted or not. One thing is for sure is we cannot let any of them in.
We could not conform with international law and treaties and domestic law. There is likely nothing the rest of the world could or would do.
But if we want to live in a world where our word and the rule of law is important, not following laws and negotiated agreements is not a good precendent.

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Regardless of whether this is plotted or not. One thing is for sure is we cannot let any of them in.
I don't know...I'm thinking we have the military meet them at the border and airlift them to one of the many sanctuary cities and then cut off all federal aid to sanctuary cities and let them figure it out WIN....WIN
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I think anyone believing this is a plot and organized for the mid terms has clearly been wearing a tin foil hat far too tightly. I'd also agree Mexico should be the country stepping up to offer asylum to these people.
and i think if you feel this has nothing to do with politics, you have your head in the sand. who is feeding these people along the way? i don’t see anyone carrying a months supply of food.
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and i think if you feel this has nothing to do with politics, you have your head in the sand. who is feeding these people along the way? i don’t see anyone carrying a months supply of food.
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It's pretty interesting how it started

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If anyone's feeding them, it's likely the Mexican government, hoping they stay strong and truck right on thru to the US border so they don't have to deal with them.
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and i think if you feel this has nothing to do with politics, you have your head in the sand. who is feeding these people along the way? i don’t see anyone carrying a months supply of food.

Who do you think are feeding them along the way?? Compassionate people would be my 1st locals churches..aid groups A hard concept for some to imagine



no one is denying that these people need help. but what liberals
don’t seem to grasp, is that we can’t take them all. we don’t have the space or the money.

Not that we should taken them all in.. but what you said not surprising is just not true ... We do have the space and the money.. not sure how that has any bearing on the topic

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jim Trump's response has everything to do do with politics, you have your head in the sand. when it comes to who you think is using it politically
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jim Trump's response has everything to do do with politics, you have your head in the sand. when it comes to who you think is using it politically
we have the money to take them
in? weren’t you worrying about the debt?

of course trumps response has to do with politics, asndies the liberal claim that we should
let them in. how many is nancy pelosi going to let
live next to her, so you suppose?? it’s very easy to support open borders when you are immune to the effects.
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we have the money to take them
in? weren’t you worrying about the debt?

of course trumps response has to do with politics, asndies the liberal claim that we should
let them in. how many is nancy pelosi going to let
live next to her, so you suppose?? it’s very easy to support open borders when you are immune to the effects.
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only conservatives are claiming we have an open border we never have and never will have an open border .. another lie from the right for the uninformed you want to call it a porous border I'll agree with that

1 F 35 cost us $85 million please we have the money if we need it

who destabilized that region of the world 20-30 -50 years ago The united States did funny how that works
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I can't imagine the desperation some of these people feel who are born into the worst places on the planet. But the sad fact is, we cannot come close to taking in everyone whose lives would be better here, we cannot come close to doing that. Do you agree?

What we can do, and should do, is work to make their home countries, less awful. I'm pretty sure that's what the UN was supposed to be for, maybe we can remind them of that.

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