Opiods

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

So do you believe that Narcan use should be scrapped and just let these folks perish?
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no ... just saying how the addicts view Narcan they brag about how many times they have been Narcaned .. It was made to save lives and it does but for many it just puts them right back in the game to get high an hour later to do it all over again

[Jim in CT]

I had back surgery for bulging disk a few years ago. Until then, I don't know that I had ever taken anything stronger than Tylenol, and I could never figure out how anyone could get addicted to pills.

When I woke up in pain, they gave me Percoset. The relief and euphoria that swept over me were unbelievable. I'd never tried drugs, not even pot, never felt anything like it. I had maybe a week's supply, and by the time I was done, I was licking the bottle to get every trace I could.

At my follow up, I was still in a little pain, and the doctor and I had a long talk about what he was going to give me. I told him, that I wasn't exactly comfortable with how badly my body was craving more Percoset. Part of me was telling myself to exaggerate the pain I was still in, so that he'd give me more Percoset. I told him that. He gave me something weaker, and gradually weaned me off everything. But getting off the pain meds entirely, was much harder than I ever dreamed it could be. Maybe not everyone reacts that way, but I did.

Dangerous stuff.

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I had back surgery for bulging disk a few years ago. Until then, I don't know that I had ever taken anything stronger than Tylenol, and I could never figure out how anyone could get addicted to pills.

When I woke up in pain, they gave me Percoset. The relief and euphoria that swept over me were unbelievable. I'd never tried drugs, not even pot, never felt anything like it. I had maybe a week's supply, and by the time I was done, I was licking the bottle to get every trace I could.

At my follow up, I was still in a little pain, and the doctor and I had a long talk about what he was going to give me. I told him, that I wasn't exactly comfortable with how badly my body was craving more Percoset. Part of me was telling myself to exaggerate the pain I was still in, so that he'd give me more Percoset. I told him that. He gave me something weaker, and gradually weaned me off everything. But getting off the pain meds entirely, was much harder than I ever dreamed it could be. Maybe not everyone reacts that way, but I did.

Dangerous stuff.

A couple tokes of th diggidy dank would do your soul good Jim. Put on some rusted root or some early Grateful Dead ... plow a pint of Ben and Jerry’s... and unclench that tight ass of yours. 😂😂😆😆
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[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I had back surgery for bulging disk a few years ago. Until then, I don't know that I had ever taken anything stronger than Tylenol, and I could never figure out how anyone could get addicted to pills.

When I woke up in pain, they gave me Percoset. The relief and euphoria that swept over me were unbelievable. I'd never tried drugs, not even pot, never felt anything like it. I had maybe a week's supply, and by the time I was done, I was licking the bottle to get every trace I could.

At my follow up, I was still in a little pain, and the doctor and I had a long talk about what he was going to give me. I told him, that I wasn't exactly comfortable with how badly my body was craving more Percoset. Part of me was telling myself to exaggerate the pain I was still in, so that he'd give me more Percoset. I told him that. He gave me something weaker, and gradually weaned me off everything. But getting off the pain meds entirely, was much harder than I ever dreamed it could be. Maybe not everyone reacts that way, but I did.

Dangerous stuff.

Yep. I have been offfered iot before. I think I am strong enough not to get hooked, just not willing to take the chance. Seen WAY too many people get the taste.

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Its getting real friggin old....

I know, right?

Originally Posted by Nebe

A couple tokes of th diggidy dank would do your soul good Jim. Put on some rusted root or some early Grateful Dead ... plow a pint of Ben and Jerry’s... and unclench that tight ass of yours. 😂😂😆😆
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Yeh, but it will all be OK cause you'll be giggling at stop signs

[Got Stripers]

Still have a handful of oxy left from my 2011 back surgery, I missed my morning BM’s more than I wanted relief from the left over discomfort, gave them up to get back to my throne and am reading.
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[Sea Dangles]

I stopped taking perc 5 days after a new hip just so I didn’t have to give birth to a cannonball.
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[Pete F.]

We lost the war on drugs
We need to do something different
Portugal has had the best results
Between 1998 and 2011, the number of people in drug treatment increased by more than 60 percent (from approximately 23,600 to roughly 38,000). Over 70 percent of those who seek treatment receive opioid-substitution therapy, the most effective treatment for opioid dependence.
The number of new HIV diagnoses dropped dramatically – from 1,575 cases in 2000 to 78 cases in 2013 – and the number of new AIDS cases decreased from 626 in 2000 to 74 cases in 2013 (in a country of just over 10 million people).
Drug overdose fatalities dropped from about 80 in 2001 to just 16 in 2012.
The Health Ministry estimates that only about 25,000 Portuguese use heroin, down from 100,000 when the policy began.
The percentage of people behind bars in Portugal for drug law violations has decreased dramatically, from 44 percent in 1999 to 24 percent in 2013.
The percentage of people arrested and sent to criminal court for drug possession declined by 60 percent.
The Portuguese Health Ministry spends less than $10 per citizen per year on its successful drug policy. Meanwhile the US has spent some $10K per household (more than $1 trillion total) over the decades on a failed drug policy that results in more than 1,000 deaths each week.
Perhaps most significantly, by removing the threat of criminal penalties, Portugal took away the fear and stigma associated with seeking treatment. Now those who need treatment come to it voluntarily – and are more likely to succeed as a result.
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[spence]

SF has always had a homeless problem. Big issue today is the homeless are being pushed into the streets.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

SF has always had a homeless problem. Big issue today is the homeless are being pushed into the streets.
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Again, most cities have homeless. Not all cities get 50-100 calls a day to remove human feces. But asking why that is, reveals a flaw of mine according to you, not a flaw in city policy.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Well, it did help in job creation. The city has formed a Poop Squad To go around the streets cleaning it up all the time
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[Pete F.]

I don't see that any city other than SanFran has a Poo problem that is being reported on or shows up online, though maybe I googled it wrong.

Maybe Jims right and liberals are full of .........

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

I don't see that any city other than SanFran has a Poo problem that is being reported on or shows up online, though maybe I googled it wrong.

Maybe Jims right and liberals are full of .........

Maybe San Francisco can copy their free needles for drug addicts program by providing free pooper scoopers to the homeless.

[Raider Ronnie]

People can talk all they want.
Drugs are BIG BUSINESS in this country and the last thing our elected officials want
To do is fix it.
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