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01-21-2018, 10:52 AM
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that's pretty funny
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funny but true .. and in 3 years there will be data to see the True Trump affect good or bad
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01-21-2018, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
funny but true ..
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Could you please flesh out that simplistic opinion?
What if Obama and the Dems, in his first year, passed a tax bill similar to the current one? Would a lot of corporations have brought back, to the U.S., tax sheltered money? How many hundreds of billions of dollars would have been added to the U.S. treasury? And how many foreign companies would have decided to move to the U.S.? And how much more disposable income would the aggregate public have to spend into the economy? And how many more people could be employed in the expanded economy?
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01-21-2018, 11:25 AM
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the left prefers a stick to a carrot
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01-21-2018, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Could you please flesh out that simplistic opinion?
What if Obama and the Dems, in his first year, passed a tax bill similar to the current one? Would a lot of corporations have brought back, to the U.S., tax sheltered money? How many hundreds of billions of dollars would have been added to the U.S. treasury? And how many foreign companies would have decided to move to the U.S.? And how much more disposable income would the aggregate public have to spend into the economy? And how many more people could be employed in the expanded economy?
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its very simple take economic data from election day 2008 to when Trump took office 2016 tada you have hard data
then we do the same with Trump in 4 years and Tada we have hard data could be positive could be negative
your in your time machine again talking what if's
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01-21-2018, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
its very simple take economic data from election day 2008 to when Trump took office 2016 tada you have hard data
then we do the same with Trump in 4 years and Tada we have hard data could be positive could be negative
your in your time machine again talking what if's
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You propose a what if. Then you pooh pooh me for proposing a what if. WTF is wrong with you?
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01-21-2018, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
What if Obama and the Dems, in his first year, passed a tax bill similar to the current one? Would a lot of corporations have brought back, to the U.S., tax sheltered money? How many hundreds of billions of dollars would have been added to the U.S. treasury? And how many foreign companies would have decided to move to the U.S.? And how much more disposable income would the aggregate public have to spend into the economy? And how many more people could be employed in the expanded economy?
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I think you're ignoring the impact that flying babies have on the stroller industry. It's basic market forces at work.
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01-21-2018, 12:58 PM
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I think you're ignoring the impact that flying babies have on the stroller industry. It's basic market forces at work.
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I did not ignore that very significant factor. It has been empirically demonstrated that flying babies have zero impact on the stroller industry. But lower corporate taxes do have a significant impact.
Flying German Shepherds, on the other hand, do have quite an impact. It requires a sturdy stroller cover to protect the baby from the big load of sh*t those dogs are known to drop. Often, as well, we need a defense against loads dropped from incoming flying Spence posts. 
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01-21-2018, 01:21 PM
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I did not ignore that very significant factor. It has been empirically demonstrated that flying babies have zero impact on the stroller industry. But lower corporate taxes do have a significant impact.
Flying German Shepherds, on the other hand, do have quite an impact. It requires a sturdy stroller cover to protect the baby from the big load of sh*t those dogs are known to drop. Often, as well, we need a defense against loads dropped from incoming flying Spence posts.
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Is there ANY empirical evidence that supports cutting corporate taxes or is it more like a test of faith?
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01-21-2018, 01:43 PM
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Is there ANY empirical evidence that supports cutting corporate taxes or is it more like a test of faith?
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Is there actually empirical evidence that economic theories work other than when tried they do or don't?
There is also the logic of the more money you have, the more you can spend.
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01-21-2018, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Is there ANY empirical evidence that supports cutting corporate taxes or is it more like a test of faith?
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(1) Why are there so many companies with headquarters in Bermuda? Because CEOs like to wear plaid shorts and knee-high pink socks?
(2) have you not seen an y of the announcements from companies giving raises, bonuses, or making investments in the US?
(3) but there is some speculation involved. But what we do know, especially here in CT, is that uncompetitive taxes do not work.
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01-22-2018, 10:24 AM
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Empirical evidence is information that verifies the truth (that which accurately corresponds to reality) or falsity (inaccuracy) of a claim.
Empirical evidence is information acquired by observation or experimentation. Scientists record and analyze this data. The process is a central part of the scientific method.
Jim in CT detbuch clearly dont understand Empirical evidence its clear data points exist for 8 years under obama
They are no such long term data points for Trump regarding his overall impact in the economy over time and some see 1 time offers from Companys as Empirical evidence of the benefits of a certain action.. thats not how it works
I am not suggesting Trumps hasn't had an impact on the US economy(its effect are founded only on speculation)
but their is no Empirical evidence any of his legislation he has passed (aka tax cut) or just repealing every this with Obamas name on it . will have the promised out come ... we'll see in the coming years how it shakes out ... and who wins and who looses
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