Hyannis ferry hits jetty

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Cool Beans

From what I have heard the navy ship was DIW, likely awaiting transit time, the other ship was transiting into port and for a reason not yet disclosed turned around mid channel and was heading back out when it stuck the Fitzgerald.

Sitting in this area waiting to set navigation detail until closer to 6am is not uncommon, since most port times are in the daylight at Yokosuka.
I have sat aboard ship[ many times in this area during my 6 years stationed in Yokosuka. The Fitzgerald would have had lights on designating them as DIW and not under power. If the supply ship turned around quick enough, the navy ship may not have had time to get out of her way.

I think there is something more to this going on that has not been released yet....

Interesting points. However DIW there along the entrances of for shipping into Tokyo would be a bit much, no? And if the merchant was on autopilot with nobody on bridge (something others have speculated)

[Cool Beans]

It was pretty common when I was stationed there to "park" or "loiter" in that area, and wait closer to sunrise, and then set navigation detail and start our transit into Yokosuka navy base.

If she was not DIW, with CIC and the bridge minimally manned, I don't see any possible way this could happen. You always have at least several operation specialists in CIC watching the radar and plotting all traffic. Anything with a close intercept is sent to the bridge and placed on the plotting board. They have several topside lookouts at all times, plus a small group on the bridge.

20 years in the navy and I cannot fathom the entire bridge and CIC watch team screwing this up. I have a feeling we will hear more details soon... something fishy is going on... whether it be total incompetence of the Officer of the Deck on the bridge or extreme course and speed changes by the Filipino crew, it just doesn't add up. Both of these ships are over 500 feet long.... It sounds as if the Fitzgerald never even saw the danger.. no collision alarm... strange..

[Cool Beans]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/navy-destro...ry?id=48131357

A screenshot provided by vessel-tracking service MarineTraffic shows the route of the container ship.... this does not look accidental to me....

[JohnR]

As for the bridge/watch/CIC team screwing up / making mistakes / bad luck / this going upgefucht quickly Remember the USS Porter a few years ago?

Originally Posted by Cool Beans

http://abcnews.go.com/US/navy-destro...ry?id=48131357

A screenshot provided by vessel-tracking service MarineTraffic shows the route of the container ship.... this does not look accidental to me....

There have been many speculations (including a really bad one in AmericanThinker) but we don't know the facts. The "likely" collision occurred when the merchant made its first sharp port turn - according to people smarter than me.

I would add this:

https://warontherocks.com/2017/06/ho...isions-at-sea/

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Cool Beans

http://abcnews.go.com/US/navy-destro...ry?id=48131357

A screenshot provided by vessel-tracking service MarineTraffic shows the route of the container ship.... this does not look accidental to me....

I read that the turn was after they struck - it looks like it then came back.

[FormerUser]

This is just my opinion,it is my sincere belief that the Fitzgerald tragedy was not an accident.

[Cool Beans]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I read that the turn was after they struck - it looks like it then came back.

All reports show the initial U turn was 30 minutes prior to the accident

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Cool Beans

All reports show the initial U turn was 30 minutes prior to the accident

And you will eventually see that that is because the MV did not report it. Times are messed up by an hour.