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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by PaulS

It originally did and then at some point they changed so that it did not cover green cards. I haven't heard about visas but would guess they are being treated the same as green cards.

Please show me where Trump's original, released, executive order mentioned Green cards? and why now it doesn't?

I'm pretty sure if there was a newer EO released we would have heard all about it.

your post also tells me you never read the EO that he released because he does address VISA's in it.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Please show me where Trump's original, released, executive order mentioned Green cards? and why now it doesn't? Is this like your statement earlier saying it never mentioned a ban or didn't favor Christians when infact both of those were the intent.

I'm pretty sure if there was a newer EO released we would have heard all about it.

your post also tells me you never read the EO that he released because he does address VISA's in it.

Your right I didn't - big deal, I was going by what the President's admin. was saying. If they all aren't on the same page, I guess that is something they need to work out. They are saying today it was rolled out badly. Dept. heads heard about it at the same time it they were being briefed.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Your right I didn't - big deal, I was going by what the President's admin. was saying. If they all aren't on the same page, I guess that is something they need to work out. They are saying today it was rolled out badly. Dept. heads heard about it at the same time it they were being briefed.

keep moving the goal posts

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by scottw

keep moving the goal posts

Not at all. Pls. explain your snarkiness? How did I move the goal post? Isn't it the Admin. who is moving the goal posts?

Is this like when KA Conway said you have to go by what is in the President's heart and ignore what he says?

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by scottw

keep moving the goal posts

Yeah, just that same old tactic to prevent the winning field goal. But it was OK for the lefties to roll out Obama Care way more badly than how Trump's executive order was supposedly rolled out. And we were supposed to understand that, of course, there were things about the ACA that needed to be fixed, and that it needed to be passed to find out what was in it, and that it was necessary to pass it without any Republican approval, and that it was important to just get it passed and worry about details later. We were supposed to give it time to get better. No matter if it temporarily created some hardships. That was necessary for the greater good.

Well, it seems that the badness of not being on the same page about green cards and visas was straightened out in day or two, but Obamacare badness just got worse.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Is this like your statement earlier saying it never mentioned a ban or didn't favor Christians when infact both of those were the intent. .

There's that word "Intent" again....amazing how that word was completely lost during the Hillary e-mail scandal, but *POOF* it's back

Trump's EO didn't mention a ban, Muslims, Christians, or Green Cards....but you didn't even read it....so you're arguments are falling on completely deaf ears.

Originally Posted by PaulS

Your right I didn't - big deal, I was going by what the President's admin. was saying. If they all aren't on the same page, I guess that is something they need to work out. They are saying today it was rolled out badly. Dept. heads heard about it at the same time it they were being briefed.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

There's that word "Intent" again....amazing how that word was completely lost during the Hillary e-mail scandal, but *POOF* it's back

Trump's EO didn't mention a ban, Muslims, Christians, or Green Cards....but you didn't even read it....so you're arguments are falling on completely deaf earsThen why respond?.

But you read it (or did you just do a search for those words?) and you still don't know what the intent was. Maybe you should read it a little slower and think about what it means. How was that?

Even Paul Ryan knows the "intent"

"Now, I think it’s regrettable that there was some confusion on the rollout of this,” Mr. Ryan added. “No one wanted to see people with green cards or special immigrant visas, like translators, get caught up in all of this."

I might have even posted a tweet of Pres. Trump's where he called it a "ban".

[Slipknot]

GREAT post debutch

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

GREAT post debutch

which one?

[Slipknot]

the long one

post #88

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by PaulS

But you read it (or did you just do a search for those words?) and you still don't know what the intent was. Maybe you should read it a little slower and think about what it means. How was that?

Even Paul Ryan knows the "intent"

"Now, I think it’s regrettable that there was some confusion on the rollout of this,” Mr. Ryan added. “No one wanted to see people with green cards or special immigrant visas, like translators, get caught up in all of this."

I might have even posted a tweet of Pres. Trump's where he called it a "ban".

There is nothing in the quote you posted by Ryan that says The executive order intended to ban green card holders or those with special visas. He regrets that there was confusion. That does not mean he thinks there was intent to block green card or special visa holders. He fully supports the EO as written. And depending on Trump to define something requires understanding his special (alaternative ) use of language.