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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

only a blind white guy wouldn't see Racism but it seem the courts saw things differently all over the county .. must be another liberal conspiracy

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WDMSO, I have no doubt that you can post dozens of links, to stories that claim voter id laws are racist.

But the question is, why? Why do those laws disproportionately target blacks?

What is it, about getting a voter id card, that makes it harder for poor blacks to get, than for poor whites, or poor Latinos?

[buckman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

WDMSO, I have no doubt that you can post dozens of links, to stories that claim voter id laws are racist.

But the question is, why? Why do those laws disproportionately target blacks?

What is it, about getting a voter id card, that makes it harder for poor blacks to get, than for poor whites, or poor Latinos?

He will check his tool bag and get back to you on that ...............
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by buckman

He will check his tool bag and get back to you on that ...............
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Buckman, I have asked the question 50 times, why is getting an id more burdensome for blacks. The only answer I ever get is "because this judge said so".

What is it about the process of getting an id, that is inherently more burdensome for blacks?

[buckman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Buckman, I have asked the question 50 times, why is getting an id more burdensome for blacks. The only answer I ever get is "because this judge said so".

What is it about the process of getting an id, that is inherently more burdensome for blacks?

Does anyone here know anybody that does not have some form of ID and can you please give me a legitimate reason why they don't have one ?
I actually do know a few and they are doing a demolition job for a sub contractor , as I type this this . The reason ... Well let's just say they won't be voting for Trump.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I guess you would have to say it is bc Repub. have no use for minorities. Why else would the Repub. do it if there is no fraud?

What did the judge who threw out the NC law say - something like it targeted African-Americans with almost surgical precision. The only reason to do it would be to depress black turnout at the polls.

Yup, they should try conservatism

"I guess you would have to say it is bc Repub. have no use for minorities"

Yes, you would say that. And it's laughable. I wonder, then, why George Bush heroically rammed his AIDS relief plan through Congress, and is credited with saving over one million lives of AIDS patients in Africa? Or why he promoted Clarence Thomas, Condi Rice, and Colin Powell?

"Why else would the Repub. do it if there is no fraud?"

One reason is because there is, in fact, some fraud. Not a lot, naturally. But not "no fraud", either.

"it targeted African-Americans with almost surgical precision"

But WHY??? I honestly want to know, because I have no idea, why this is more of a burden for blacks than it is for other races? Why? If blacks can go through the same process to get an id, but freely choose not to, is THAT racist? Just because voter id laws reduce black voting turnout more than they restrict white voter turnout, that doesn't mean it's racist. It could mean that whites are more likely to care enough about voting, to go through the hassle of getting the id. If the process is more burdensome to blacks, that's racist. If it's not more burdensome for blacks, that means they are freely choosing not to get the id, which would not be racist.

"they should try conservatism "

Tell the blacks in Hartford, New Haven, Bridgeport, Chicago, Milwaukee, Baltimore, and St Louis, that liberalism has been a positive influence. My God, how could it be worse?

Paul, here is the thing...Bill Clinton did a lot of the economic things that conservatives endorse...he kicked millions of blacks off welfare. Do you know what happened? They went to work. And he is a liberal hero. But if I suggest the same thing, his wife says I am a racist. If you can explain that hypocrisy, I would love to hear it.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT;1108296
"Why else would the Repub. do it if there is no fraud?"

One reason is because there is, in fact, some fraud. Not a lot, naturally. But not "no fraud", either.
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So the Repub. will disenfranchise lots of minorities bc there is "some fraud". In some of the states these types of laws have been enacted, there is been 0 fraud.[/COLOR]
"it targeted African-Americans with almost surgical precision"

But WHY??? We have discussed this numerous times - pls go back and read those postings. And that is a different issue. The issue her is why did the Repub. legisl. in many states pass these type of laws. The reason is to prevent minorities from voting..

I deleted my original post bc I didn't read the 1st page. So I responded and then saw wdmso brought up the same "surgical precision".

[buckman]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I deleted my original post bc I didn't read the 1st page. So I responded and then saw wdmso brought up the same "surgical precision".

Finally, someone who can tell us how this affects African Americans more then others .
Go ahead . The stage is all yours .
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by buckman

Finally, someone who can tell us how this affects African Americans more then others .
Go ahead . The stage is all yours .
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Go back and look at prior threads - this issue was covered multiple times.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Go back and look at prior threads - this issue was covered multiple times.

I'm too lazy .
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Go back and look at prior threads - this issue was covered multiple times.

No, it has been asked multiple times. It has been answered, zero times. Because the burden of getting the id, obviously, is not a function of race.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

No, it has been asked multiple times. It has been answered, zero times. Because the burden of getting the id, obviously, is not a function of race.

How about this. If I pull up a thread where we discussed this exact same issue from now on every time you bring up a topic that has been discussed before and someone points it out, you don't particpate in the rest of that thread?

Funny you mention Colin Powell - he just said the whole Birther movement was racist.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

We have discussed this numerous times - pls go back and read those postings. And that is a different issue. The issue her is why did the Repub. legisl. in many states pass these type of laws. The reason is to prevent minorities from voting".

Paul, remind me.

THERE IS NO WAY ANYONE CAN CLAIM THE PROCESS IS DIFFERENT, OR INHERENTLY MORE BURDENSOME, FOR ONE RACE.

Come on.