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04-04-2016, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Kinda like that but Even if the classification label is removed , it still can't be forwarded to an unsecure system because there is no physical connection between the two. You literally have to move it yourself onto the unsecure network so you can email it....via CD or Memory stick or something comparable.
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So it requires one more act of commission, quite possibly a criminal act of commission. Gotcha.
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04-04-2016, 01:47 PM
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So it requires one more act of commission, quite possibly a criminal act of commission. Gotcha.
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04-04-2016, 03:20 PM
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This is the only reason she hasn't been prosecuted already.
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No, the only reason is this one: Clinton
Had it been anyone else, the legal proceedings would be underway.
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04-04-2016, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
So it requires one more act of commission, quite possibly a criminal act of commission. Gotcha.
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No evidence of this Jim.
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04-04-2016, 04:45 PM
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No evidence of this Jim.
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Yes there is, and we have discussed this. There were at least 2 classified emails, flagged as classified, that made their way to her server. In order to make their way to her server, the flags had to have been removed. The intelligence in question was not generated by the State Dept, and only the agency that produced the intelligence, has the authority to remove the flag. Her defense of that, was her claim (I am trying to remember), something about the fact that what was in teh email, had been reported in the NY Times already?
Anyway, the FBI is part of the DOJ, which is headed by an OBama appointee. And they decided there was reason to spend a lot of time and manpower looking into this. They aren't doing it because Sean Hannity asked them to do it. But naturally, you know more about their procedures than anyone else...
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04-04-2016, 07:49 PM
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No evidence of this Jim.
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http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...-state-secrets
"Clinton’s flimsy claim never to have handled e-mails labeled classified imploded recently when an e-mail sent June 17, 2011, became public. That morning, Clinton’s aide Jacob Sullivan informed her that a document could not reach her via a secure fax. No sweat! Clinton replied, “ . . . turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure.” So, Clinton knew about these classified markings and, even worse, instructed her staffer to cover them up and forward her that document via a fax machine vulnerable to spies. Clinton’s “gross negligence” may have violated the federal Espionage Act, 18 U.S. Code § 793."
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04-04-2016, 09:25 PM
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http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...-state-secrets
"Clinton’s flimsy claim never to have handled e-mails labeled classified imploded recently when an e-mail sent June 17, 2011, became public. That morning, Clinton’s aide Jacob Sullivan informed her that a document could not reach her via a secure fax. No sweat! Clinton replied, “ . . . turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure.” So, Clinton knew about these classified markings and, even worse, instructed her staffer to cover them up and forward her that document via a fax machine vulnerable to spies. Clinton’s “gross negligence” may have violated the federal Espionage Act, 18 U.S. Code § 793."
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We've discussed this. The request was for unclassified talking points contained within a document on the classified system. That on its on is no indication of wrongdoing by anyone. I'd note the requested information was never even sent via email.
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04-04-2016, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
We've discussed this. The request was for unclassified talking points contained within a document on the classified system. That on its on is no indication of wrongdoing by anyone. I'd note the requested information was never even sent via email.
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She said to fax it, but you probably know better than Hillary what she said...oops I mean what she said in her email. Almost seems as though you hacked her emails also.
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04-05-2016, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
We've discussed this. The request was for unclassified talking points contained within a document on the classified system. That on its on is no indication of wrongdoing by anyone. I'd note the requested information was never even sent via email.
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Newsflash......if it's on a classified system...it's a classified document. Until it has been OK'd for release from said system.
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04-05-2016, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Newsflash......if it's on a classified system...it's a classified document. Until it has been OK'd for release from said system.
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From what the State Department has said you will find unclassified information on the classified system and that doesn't mean it's illegal to talk about it.
Then again, the State Department review says the incident reported never happened regardless.
So I guess we should hold Clinton to a standard where she's liable for retroactive classification and emails that weren't even ever sent. Nice.
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04-05-2016, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
From what the State Department has said you will find unclassified information on the classified system and that doesn't mean it's illegal to talk about it.
Then again, the State Department review says the incident reported never happened regardless.
So I guess we should hold Clinton to a standard where she's liable for retroactive classification and emails that weren't even ever sent. Nice.
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You will find unclassified on a classified system......but once it gets put on the classified system.....it is not allowed to leave without approval.....and Hillary is not the person allowed to provide that approval
I expect to hold Hillary to the same standards that everybody is held to who deals with classified material.....she's not exempt from proper security practices
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04-05-2016, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Newsflash......if it's on a classified system...it's a classified document. Until it has been OK'd for release from said system.
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My bad I guess.....I should have said it is "Considered" a classified document.....
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04-06-2016, 09:52 AM
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My bad I guess.....I should have said it is "Considered" a classified document.....
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My understanding is they were trying to use a secure fax to transmit unclassified talking points.
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