Hillary for prison 2016

[The Dad Fisherman]

What people keep forgetting is that if an email is labeled secret it stays on a network that holds that classification. In order for it to wind up on a non classified system it actually has to be physically copied to some sort of removable media and brought over to a non classified system so it could be emailed out.

A whole lot of intent to dis-regard and bypass security. It's not just an "Oops I hit the wrong key on my keyboard" moment.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

What people keep forgetting is that if an email is labeled secret it stays on a network that holds that classification. In order for it to wind up on a non classified system it actually has to be physically copied to some sort of removable media and brought over to a non classified system so it could be emailed out.

A whole lot of intent to dis-regard and bypass security. It's not just an "Oops I hit the wrong key on my keyboard" moment.
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That's what I was trying to get at.

So every email on her server was necessarily "un-classified" at the time it was sent. Some were retroactively classified, and I don't know that you can argue she committed a crime regarding these.

The other possibility, as you suggested, is that there were some emails that were flagged, but had the flagged removed, so the emails could be forwarded to her server. If someone removed the classification flags just so they could then be sent to her server, that person likely committed a crime. I imagine that's part of the investigation thingy that is is not looking at Hilary.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

That's what I was trying to get at.

So every email on her server was necessarily "un-classified" at the time it was sent. Some were retroactively classified, and I don't know that you can argue she committed a crime regarding these.

The other possibility, as you suggested, is that there were some emails that were flagged, but had the flagged removed, so the emails could be forwarded to her server. If someone removed the classification flags just so they could then be sent to her server, that person likely committed a crime. I imagine that's part of the investigation thingy that is is not looking at Hilary.

Kinda like that but Even if the classification label is removed , it still can't be forwarded to an unsecure system because there is no physical connection between the two. You literally have to move it yourself onto the unsecure network so you can email it....via CD or Memory stick or something comparable.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Kinda like that but Even if the classification label is removed , it still can't be forwarded to an unsecure system because there is no physical connection between the two. You literally have to move it yourself onto the unsecure network so you can email it....via CD or Memory stick or something comparable.
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So it requires one more act of commission, quite possibly a criminal act of commission. Gotcha.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

So it requires one more act of commission, quite possibly a criminal act of commission. Gotcha.

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[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Nebe

This is the only reason she hasn't been prosecuted already.
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No, the only reason is this one: Clinton

Had it been anyone else, the legal proceedings would be underway.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

So it requires one more act of commission, quite possibly a criminal act of commission. Gotcha.

No evidence of this Jim.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

No evidence of this Jim.
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Yes there is, and we have discussed this. There were at least 2 classified emails, flagged as classified, that made their way to her server. In order to make their way to her server, the flags had to have been removed. The intelligence in question was not generated by the State Dept, and only the agency that produced the intelligence, has the authority to remove the flag. Her defense of that, was her claim (I am trying to remember), something about the fact that what was in teh email, had been reported in the NY Times already?

Anyway, the FBI is part of the DOJ, which is headed by an OBama appointee. And they decided there was reason to spend a lot of time and manpower looking into this. They aren't doing it because Sean Hannity asked them to do it. But naturally, you know more about their procedures than anyone else...

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

No evidence of this Jim.
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http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...-state-secrets

"Clinton’s flimsy claim never to have handled e-mails labeled classified imploded recently when an e-mail sent June 17, 2011, became public. That morning, Clinton’s aide Jacob Sullivan informed her that a document could not reach her via a secure fax. No sweat! Clinton replied, “ . . . turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure.” So, Clinton knew about these classified markings and, even worse, instructed her staffer to cover them up and forward her that document via a fax machine vulnerable to spies. Clinton’s “gross negligence” may have violated the federal Espionage Act, 18 U.S. Code § 793."
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[spence]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...-state-secrets

"Clinton’s flimsy claim never to have handled e-mails labeled classified imploded recently when an e-mail sent June 17, 2011, became public. That morning, Clinton’s aide Jacob Sullivan informed her that a document could not reach her via a secure fax. No sweat! Clinton replied, “ . . . turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure.” So, Clinton knew about these classified markings and, even worse, instructed her staffer to cover them up and forward her that document via a fax machine vulnerable to spies. Clinton’s “gross negligence” may have violated the federal Espionage Act, 18 U.S. Code § 793."
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We've discussed this. The request was for unclassified talking points contained within a document on the classified system. That on its on is no indication of wrongdoing by anyone. I'd note the requested information was never even sent via email.
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[Fly Rod]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

What people keep forgetting is that if an email is labeled secret it stays on a network that holds that classification. In order for it to wind up on a non classified system it actually has to be physically copied to some sort of removable media and brought over to a non classified system so it could be emailed out.

A whole lot of intent to dis-regard and bypass security. It's not just an "Oops I hit the wrong key on my keyboard" moment.
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Absolutely correct....

[spence]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

What people keep forgetting is that if an email is labeled secret it stays on a network that holds that classification. In order for it to wind up on a non classified system it actually has to be physically copied to some sort of removable media and brought over to a non classified system so it could be emailed out.

A whole lot of intent to dis-regard and bypass security. It's not just an "Oops I hit the wrong key on my keyboard" moment.
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I have yet to see any reporting that suggests this happened.
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