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			01-01-2016, 10:43 AM
			
			
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				In most mass shooting events over the past several decades there has been a personal connection or grievance that determined the location of the murders. I've never seen any evidence that killers look to gun free zones as easy targets...it's a myth. 
			
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 Oh Bull S hit... you and your myth dismissals are getting old. Do you need direct evidence? Or can you show even one mass event where perp was at least matched with even number of armed people? They might be sick, but their primal instinct to survive will drive them to act out where there will be no armed resistance.  
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-01-2016, 10:52 AM
			
			
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				They might be sick, but their primal instinct to survive will drive them to act out where there will be no armed resistance. 
			
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 Well, I believe the majority of mass shootings are murder suicides.  
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-01-2016, 11:00 AM
			
			
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			01-01-2016, 01:47 PM
			
			
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 That's not a deflection, I was offering a counterpoint to your argument.  
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-01-2016, 05:17 PM
			
			
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				Well, I believe the majority of mass shootings are murder suicides. 
			
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 You mean like San Bernadino, Ft Hood, the Washington Navy Yard, Aurora Colorado, Planned Parenthood, Chatanooga Tennessee, Charleston SC Church, and Arizona (Gabby Giffords)......those the ones you're talking about
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			01-01-2016, 07:25 PM
			
			
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				You mean like San Bernadino, Ft Hood, the Washington Navy Yard, Aurora Colorado, Planned Parenthood, Chatanooga Tennessee, Charleston SC Church, and Arizona (Gabby Giffords)......those the ones you're talking about 
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 If that the extent of your analysis?
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			01-01-2016, 07:37 PM
			
			
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				If that the extent of your analysis? 
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 No, it was his counterpoint to your argument....   And, I thought, a very good one. Yours, not so much. You have offered zero analysis yet ask everyone else for theirs.  
Actually TDF simply asked if those were the incidents around which you had based your "belief", which I am sure you had not included in your study...  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			01-01-2016, 10:54 PM
			
			
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				If that the extent of your analysis? 
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 Is that the extent of your answer?
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			01-02-2016, 03:44 PM
			
			
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				You mean like San Bernadino, Ft Hood, the Washington Navy Yard, Aurora Colorado, Planned Parenthood, Chatanooga Tennessee, Charleston SC Church, and Arizona (Gabby Giffords)......those the ones you're talking about 
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 I didn't say all, I said the majority of...you're just cherry picking.
 
And in several of these you mention the killer clearly didn't have a plan to stay alive. Creating a situation where you're likely going to die is basically the same thing.  
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-02-2016, 06:02 PM
			
			
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				I didn't say all, I said the majority of...you're just cherry picking. 
 
And in several of these you mention the killer clearly didn't have a plan to stay alive. Creating a situation where you're likely going to die is basically the same thing. 
			
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 Maybe they didn't believe they were going to die.....considering they were gun free zones....
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			01-02-2016, 06:20 PM
			
			
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				Maybe they didn't believe they were going to die.....considering they were gun free zones.... 
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 How did you suspend your logic to post that?  
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-02-2016, 06:51 PM
			
			
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				How did you suspend your logic to post that? 
			
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 I fed the info into the Spence-O-Meter.....its an invention of mine that takes the info, strips out the facts, removes common sense......then neatly spits it out all wrapped up in a nice bundle of unsubstantiated beliefs and sarcastic innuendos.
 
Don't worry., I'll credit you when I get the patent registered
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