Obama, again with the cheap insults

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

The context for the discussion was about tolerance, not violence. When you look a the religions over time I don't think any one can claim the violence title either.

Violence tends to also be relative to politics.

You should read Karen Armstrong's "Fields of Blood."

"The context for the discussion was about tolerance, not violence"

Doesn't systemic violence against a targeted group, imply a lack of tolerance towards that group?

Spence, most Muslim nations are absolutely barbaric in their treatment of women, homosexuals, Jews, Christians, and drug addicts. Those are all groups that liberals sure claim to care a lof about (except Christians, of course, but we'll save that for later).


"When you look a the religions over time I don't think any one can claim the violence title either"

When you look at the last 100 years, I think there is a very, very clear winner in the "religious violence reality show challenge".

Do you really deny that? Honestly?

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"The context for the discussion was about tolerance, not violence"

Doesn't systemic violence against a targeted group, imply a lack of tolerance towards that group?

That must be like when my Old Man would say "This is going to hurt me more than it hurts you" just before I got spanked.....

Then again I'm pretty sure I got that ass whooping because he wasn't going to tolerate the way I was behaving

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

That must be like when my Old Man would say "This is going to hurt me more than it hurts you" just before I got spanked.....

Then again I'm pretty sure I got that ass whooping because he wasn't going to tolerate the way I was behaving

True.

But I got spanked, and every time I got spanked, I absolutely had it coming. You spank your kid to teah them a lesson. Tough love is still love. Not the same as blowing him up because he doesn't want to wear his beard the way you command, or because he is willing to let his wife drive a car and learn to read.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

When you look at the last 100 years, I think there is a very, very clear winner in the "religious violence reality show challenge".

Do you really deny that? Honestly?

Is the root of the violence religion or politics? That's the question you should be asking.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Is the root of the violence religion or politics? That's the question you should be asking.

Boy, that's a real head-scratcher. Hmmm, let's see. Let me answer that question by asking you a quaetion. When the jihadists are about to slaughter their victims, or about to detonate a suicide vest, what do they cry out?

(1) Allahu Akhbar (God is great), or
(2) <insert name of any politician> is great?

Which is it?

Spence, just for laughs...if they aren't motivated by religion, but rather by politics, please tell us exactly which political ideology they are fighting for?

A terrorist is identified by th ecause he is killing for. Timothy McVeigh was Irish, that doesn't mean he was in the IRA. He was a political terrorist, an anti-government terrorist.

The jihadists are religious terrorists. That's the cause they are fighting for. If I am wrong, by all means, please tell me what they are fighting for? They want a world-wide secular parliamentary system? Are they all national socialists? No, I got it, they are all libertarians, they want everyone to be able to do whatever they want with no one else telling them what to do. That's it, isn't it?

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

Is the root of the violence religion or politics? That's the question you should be asking.

That's the question you would ask if you don't want it to be about religion . Funny how a lot of the stuff the GOP does in politics,is blamed on religion
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[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

That's the question you would ask if you don't want it to be about religion .
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Ok, that makes a lot of sense

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Is the root of the violence religion or politics? That's the question you should be asking.

the root of the violence is culture.... cultivated, shaped and defined by both religion and politics

http://www.politico.eu/article/molen...entrification/

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by scottw

the root of the violence is culture.... cultivated, shaped and defined by both religion and politics

http://www.politico.eu/article/molen...entrification/

I thought the root was all the bombs we drop on them and the random drone strikes. Wouldn't you want to kill someone if your house was bombed ? It's a vicious cycle
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[buckman]

Originally Posted by Nebe

I thought the root was all the bombs we drop on them and the random drone strikes. Wouldn't you want to kill someone if your house was bombed ? It's a vicious cycle
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Bernie says it's climate change
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[Nebe]

Originally Posted by buckman

Bernie says it's climate change
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He does and it's a very good argument.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

He does and it's a very good argument.
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How was Osama Bin Laden negatively impacted by climate change? Or the Ft Hood shooter? Or the mastermind of the Paris attacks, who went to a prestigious high school?