Planned Parenthood

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

The problem with conservative thinking is that things tend to become black and white. A more liberal way of thinking breaks down the problem and says "what if".

The fact is that while some may abuse this option out of pure convenience, the option has to be there for the times when the mother knows that this is the best option to take.
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Abortion was always legal in the case of rape, incest, or when the life of the mother was in jeopardy. What Roe V Wade did, was makit it legal to abort for sheer convenience.

"The problem with conservative thinking is that things tend to become black and white"

I would state that is a virtue of conservative thinking. In my opinion, there are moral absolutes in our world. The problem with liberal thinking, is that it's based on the philosophy of "if it feels good, do it, anything goes".

"while some may abuse this option out of pure convenience"

Why use the word "may"? There's zero confusion here, the vast majority of abortions are done for convenience, every study shows that. So if you think that convenience abortions are an abuse, does that mean you think they shoiuld be illegal?

"the option has to be there for the times when the mother knows that this is the best option to take"

For whom i sit the best option? Not the baby. You're saying that one person (the mother) can do anything she wants, without regards to others, when it's her 'best option'? Using that logic, why don't we legalize slavery again, because cheap labor may be the 'best option' for the plantatoion owner?

Conservatives tend to believe that there are 2 people to consider in this equation, Nebe. Despite what Sea Dangkes says, the pro-life poeition isn't designed for the intent to enslave the mother. It's to protect the other person involved.

We're way off track here, but it's not about the general concept of "choice". We all favor criminal laws that limit the "choices" one person can make, if that choice would hurt someone else. Every single one of us agrees on that, and i don't think that makes any of us "anti-choice". This issue, then, is only about one thing - whether or not the baby represents "someone else" who has dignity, value, and worth. I believe the baby does have dignity and worth, and for that, Sea Dangles compares me to the Taliban.

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

The problem with liberal thinking, is that it's based on the philosophy of "if it feels good, do it, anything goes".

Agree Jim, all this so called free thinking and rejecting morals started in the 60s.
Everybody who was saying "if it feels good do it" wanted to have everybody else join in so it could become OK and guiltless whether it be drugs free sex or whatever.

The 60s generation is now in control and have carried their liberal philosophy with them still saying "if it feels good do it ",as long that no one else get's hurt.

Well people do get hurt by this behavior. Drug use prevents people from facing their problems, breaks up families , causes crime, killings and increase taxes for re-hab and law enforcement.
Free sex causes unwanted pregnancy, one parent families, abortion and taxes to treat aids and need of planned parenthood to "solve?" the problem.

Common sense says others are always affected by "if it feels good do it."

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Abortion was always legal in the case of rape, incest, or when the life of the mother was in jeopardy. What Roe V Wade did, was makit it legal to abort for sheer convenience.

I don't believe that's accurate. Abortion has been legal to protect the life of the mother, but not always in cases of rape and incest.