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10-07-2013, 09:08 AM
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what quote Spence?
there is no defense for this, the government is throwing a hissy fit and taking it out on the citizens of the USA simple as that. They apparently are not qualified for the job. Makes me wonder how many in Congress can actually balance their own personal budget let alone the countries'.
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10-07-2013, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Slipknot
what quote Spence?
there is no defense for this, the government is throwing a hissy fit and taking it out on the citizens of the USA simple as that. They apparently are not qualified for the job. Makes me wonder how many in Congress can actually balance their own personal budget let alone the countries'.
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The anonymous quote that was to make it seem this was punitive. I don't buy it...this talking point that Obama's trying to inflict pain on the people to gain support is pretty silly.
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10-07-2013, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
The anonymous quote that was to make it seem this was punitive. I don't buy it...this talking point that Obama's trying to inflict pain on the people to gain support is pretty silly.
-spence
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It would be as silly as closing the Whitehouse to tours and then going to Hawaii for vacation.
Never happen!!!
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10-07-2013, 10:24 AM
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One of the funniest lines I've heard about these closures:
"If we would turn the southern border into a National Park we would take care of our illegal immigration problem."
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10-07-2013, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Well, if the point of a National Park is to preserve, how can you let people run roughshod over areas without proper staffing? Not to mention the liability issues...
I'm also suspect the context of that quote has been lost.
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So the liberal left thinks the "people" will run roughshod..... interesting. And to have to resort to pointing out liability? Please don't insult the American public with that thinking and diversionary talk. These actions are not justified, and have been taken to inflict pain and inconvenience on many while trying to force the other side to bend.
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Originally Posted by spence
The anonymous quote that was to make it seem this was punitive. I don't buy it...this talking point that Obama's trying to inflict pain on the people to gain support is pretty silly.
-spence
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He's dug his heels in and has said he will not negotiate. That is NOT the type of leader this country has counted on for 230 plus years. His trump card did not bring a conciliatory offer from the other side and now it's a game of who will blink first. Americans who voted for him to be in this office get what they deserve, an incompetent figurehead. Not a leader who can surround himself with qualified advisors who are much more qualified than he is....
The Republicans get equal blame in my book as well. They all suck. But the POTUS is the ONE who is supposed to be the dealmaker, armtwister, and negotiator, on behalf of the PEOPLE! This is about him and his agenda, and that is why he has chosen to inflict this pain on the nation as a whole. It gives me the same sick feeling I felt the night he won his first election..... |
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10-07-2013, 04:01 PM
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I only wish we could furlough the college professors who have been filling the youth with all their leftist thinking. Let them feel some of the pain....
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10-07-2013, 04:58 PM
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I only wish we could furlough the college professors who have been filling the youth with all their leftist thinking. Let them feel some of the pain....
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Funny, I learned to be a leftist while serving my country under a Republican Commander in Chief. As for college. My economics, civics and calc professors, were republucian and not afraid to voice political opinion to students. My sociology professor claimed to be a libertarian. The only 2 dems were composition and literature.
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10-07-2013, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by nightfighter
He's dug his heels in and has said he will not negotiate. That is NOT the type of leader this country has counted on for 230 plus years. His trump card did not bring a conciliatory offer from the other side and now it's a game of who will blink first. Americans who voted for him to be in this office get what they deserve, an incompetent figurehead...
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Actually, I believe the House and Senate dems have tried to get the budget talks into conference 20 times over the past six months in efforts to negotiate.
Instead the GOP killed all attempts up until last week after pushing the House bill through, so they can use the shutdown as leverage.
Right now, it looks like there's enough support get a clean bill through and end the standoff, yet Bohner won't put it to the floor.
Who's the problem again?
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10-07-2013, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Actually, I believe the House and Senate dems have tried to get the budget talks into conference 20 times over the past six months in efforts to negotiate.
Instead the GOP killed all attempts up until last week after pushing the House bill through, so they can use the shutdown as leverage.
Right now, it looks like there's enough support get a clean bill through and end the standoff, yet Bohner won't put it to the floor.
Who's the problem again?
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They all are the problem. Boehner doesn't represent me, and has actually alienated me almost to the point that Newt did.... Both sides at fault. But one side is in the leadership position. Wishing there were leaders who would sit down and get it done, as Tip and Reagan used to do behind closed doors....despite their polar differences. Two leaders, who could lead. And their parties would follow their lead. |
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10-07-2013, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by nightfighter
Two leaders, who could lead. And their parties would follow their lead.
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How would that go? Ok, Boehner, tea party wants to connect this budget to the unrelated affordable care act, we'll negotiate. Assault weapon ban for 1 year delay of Obamacare? This is a stupid and unprecedented case of extortion. The government may never work again if this is how the parties deal with these issues going forward. As of Wednesday there were 5 republican congressmen in Philadelphia area districts alone calling for a vote on a clean bill. They can't even get their own party to allow a vote. The only reason the government is shutdown is because Boehner lost his sack and as a result the National seashores get closed. This is the main forum, right  |
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