Is this the Place? - Page 7 - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

BigFish · 12-20-2009, 08:40 AM

Curious? Do you banish them to "The Island of Misfit Plugs"?

pbadad · 12-20-2009, 08:41 AM

Larry, do have any plans to do a airbrush clinic @ Plugfest? A few members of CSA would like to see a master at work.

Backbeach Jake · 12-20-2009, 08:42 AM

in the Moisture meter thread yesterday I mentionen that I'd cut some limbs to use as stock. I turned to de-bark and straighten. 3 weeks ago. Here's some pix

pbadad · 12-20-2009, 08:43 AM

I give my misfits to a great member of the club, Big Tim. He's learning the ropes and just got an airbrush.

BigFish · 12-20-2009, 08:43 AM

I could do something if folks would like....be my pleasure! I ain't no Ryan Smith but who is?

pbadad · 12-20-2009, 08:44 AM

B.J. what kind of wood?

BigFish · 12-20-2009, 08:45 AM

Fred....ummmmm.....is that morning wood?

Anyone spit their coffee all over the keyboard?

Backbeach Jake · 12-20-2009, 08:45 AM

You do some terrific paintwork, I'd like to see you technique.

Backbeach Jake · 12-20-2009, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BigFish

Fred....ummmmm.....is that morning wood?

Anyone spit their coffee all over the keyboard?

Funny, but a window into your mind that I wish I hadn't looked thru

Vogt · 12-20-2009, 08:47 AM

Oh boy, Billy D with a dupe! This could be dangerous...

BigFish · 12-20-2009, 08:49 AM

Small mind, small window....you have to close one eye to take a peek!

Backbeach Jake · 12-20-2009, 08:54 AM

I could go on but I'd get booted

Anyway you can see how the wood "unstraightened " itself. I thought that was interesting. I suppose if I'd quartered it it would hsvr been worse. I did quarter some wild grapevine and it warped itself something fierce

BigFish · 12-20-2009, 08:55 AM

What kind of wood is that Fred? Cypress?

Backbeach Jake · 12-20-2009, 08:59 AM

That's Eastern red cedar.

eastendlu · 12-20-2009, 09:03 AM

Morning guys just cleared snow so i can open the door.Have over 20 inches with big drifts.My back is hurting just looking at it as i have a long driveway.

Striperknight · 12-20-2009, 09:06 AM

I 'm still looking for my car.

pbadad · 12-20-2009, 09:06 AM

Mornin Lou.

pbadad · 12-20-2009, 09:08 AM

Mornin Mr. Vogt. Yeh the dupe is a great invention. Plenty of sawdust in the shop. I have a sample of the remains for you!!

numbskull · 12-20-2009, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by pbadad

George, I've been studying the 2- A54B pixs. In the xray it looks like the wire hole is say 5/16" and the weight is on the bottom and the wire slides over the top. It doesn't seem like a double cut hole by the shadow marks. I finally got the blank template set up on the lathe. Using my plastic Atom version, I come up with 1 1/16" diameter, 5 3/8" length. The pix looks like 1 1/8" dia. like an Atom Jr w/ 5 5/8"length. Do you know what the swim characteristics were in this plug w/ just a recessed tailweight? I looks to cast better the an A-jr.

The small wooden atom jr I have is 5 1/2" long and 1.18" (1 3/16' I think) wide.

The larger unfinished wood atom jr body I have is 6 1/4" long and 1.20 thick. No hook holes. The tail is .53" wide, the tail taper begins about 2 1/2" from the end and is straight over the last 2 ". The diameter at 2" from the tail is 1.17" (approx 1 1/8). The nose is quite blunt, curving over about 3/8". The plug is very tight grained white cedar. Old growth I'll bet. Nothing like the white cedar we can get now.

The smaller version (whose xray I posted) is .68" at the tail, begins it's taper a 2 1/2 ", most of which occurs after 2", but instead of straight is a hair concave. It's hooks are 1" and 3 1/2" back. The daimeter at the second hook is 1.09" (about 1 1/6).

The line tie is 5/16" below the lip slot. The lip is similar to the one Salty sells.

Backbeach Jake · 12-20-2009, 09:10 AM

Grapevine, about 5years old. It was 6" thick and straight. Quartered it and it immediately corkscrewed..

eastendlu · 12-20-2009, 09:16 AM

I have to go shovel the driveway now

i will be back in a bit.Built a paint shaker last night i know Salty will get a good laugh out of it but the thing works like you won't believe.

numbskull · 12-20-2009, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by eastendlu

Morning guys just cleared snow so i can open the door.Have over 20 inches with big drifts.My back is hurting just looking at it as i have a long driveway.

Don't you have a wife?

Diggin Jiggin · 12-20-2009, 09:22 AM

Good morning everyone... I'm jealous of what you guys already have going. I haven't gotten to work any plug stuff yet, its hard for me to get to it before the holidays but I have a few hours to play this afternoon. I've been meaning to experiment a bit with the musso swimmer shapes but I don't have anything to work from. Can someone post some basic length width dimensions ?

pbadad · 12-20-2009, 09:27 AM

Thanks George. What do you think of the weighting?

Backbeach Jake · 12-20-2009, 09:28 AM

Good morning!
I have the same problem, altho here I sit. But I guess we all need a little rest time. After Christmas, money and time will loosen up a bit.
I will spin some ornaments from the grape vine today. I think that the spiral grain will look nice.

numbskull · 12-20-2009, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Diggin Jiggin

Good morning everyone... I'm jealous of what you guys already have going. I haven't gotten to work any plug stuff yet, its hard for me to get to it before the holidays but I have a few hours to play this afternoon. I've been meaning to experiment a bit with the musso swimmer shapes but I don't have anything to work from. Can someone post some basic length width dimensions ?

Much about these has been posted previously. Here are some details on the 6" Musso pine I measured (but no longer have). If you are interested in the big swimmers pm me, or better yet come by Falmouth this week and I can show you what I know.

Here are the details on the pine jr I sent ******. The size of weight is in there.

The junior musso I measured was a pine.
it is 6 1/8" long
.85" at the nose
.5" at the tail
widest spot was 3" from the nose and measured 1.3" wide
the weight was also 3" from the nose and is 3/8" diameter and 3/4" height....drilled through
first hook is 1.25" from nose, second hook 4"
diameter 2" from either end is 1.2" (it is 1.11" at the first hook)
The lip slot is above center on the plug I saw. about .34" from the top of the plug to the slot.
The plug weighed 2.5oz, but I don't recall if this was rigged or not

I suspect the lower lip slot position that appears to be used on some plugs I've seen on line (I've never actually inspected one) was a later change and used primarily in surface swimmers (which I have not built in the Jr size).

The pine uses a high slot lefty 2 lip
The ss presumably uses the mid slot lip
I've not xrayed a maple jr....the maple sr carries a much smaller weight than the pine or ss. I think he just weighted them to float level and low.

pbadad · 12-20-2009, 10:00 AM

Nice chatting guys. Gotta go an clean the snow. Have a great week and holiday. TTYS

numbskull · 12-20-2009, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by pbadad

Thanks George. What do you think of the weighting?

Sorry Bill, missed this. You are correct, the weight is just shoved in along the wire.

Diggin Jiggin · 12-20-2009, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by numbskull

Much about these has been posted previously. Here are some details on the 6" Musso pine I measured (but no longer have). If you are interested in the big swimmers pm me, or better yet come by Falmouth this week and I can show you what I know.

Here are the details on the pine jr I sent ******. The size of weight is in there.

The junior musso I measured was a pine.
it is 6 1/8" long
.85" at the nose
.5" at the tail
widest spot was 3" from the nose and measured 1.3" wide
the weight was also 3" from the nose and is 3/8" diameter and 3/4" height....drilled through
first hook is 1.25" from nose, second hook 4"
diameter 2" from either end is 1.2" (it is 1.11" at the first hook)
The lip slot is above center on the plug I saw. about .34" from the top of the plug to the slot.
The plug weighed 2.5oz, but I don't recall if this was rigged or not

I suspect the lower lip slot position that appears to be used on some plugs I've seen on line (I've never actually inspected one) was a later change and used primarily in surface swimmers (which I have not built in the Jr size).

The pine uses a high slot lefty 2 lip
The ss presumably uses the mid slot lip
I've not xrayed a maple jr....the maple sr carries a much smaller weight than the pine or ss. I think he just weighted them to float level and low.

Thanks George thats plenty to get me started. I'm not sure what I will do with the shape. I will have to try some normal ones that go by the specs, but I'm tossing around the idea of doing some lipless stuff like the nike uses. When I was picking up wood around thanksgiving I got some maple for darters and they did not have any 5/4 so I ended up with 6/4 and it started me thinking maybe I could try and make some heavy swimmers that go down a bit. I had a lot of luck with the darters last year but I don't make any swimmers that go deep. I think a lot of guys built conrads for this purpose last year, but I really like the shape of the musso.

ProfessorM · 12-20-2009, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by pbadad

Prof M. here is the rear view of my weight placement of my belly weight Wadd. the hole 3/16" and below a 1/4" dowel plugging up the remaining hole. Put entire blank on lathe and spin away. I do go slower when I approach the dowel area.

thanks for the photo. Neat idea.