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			03-15-2007, 06:11 PM
			
			
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		 I can't imagine a CNC plug and a duplicator plug would be different enough to impact performace, considering the other and obvious factors that contribute to quality. 
 
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			03-15-2007, 11:32 PM
			
			
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		Let me tell you the real difference.  A CNC guy is working to pump out volume, therefore he never holds each piece of wood... when I spin a plug... if I pick up a blank that feels light... I toss it aside and make a popper or a pencil out of it... if it feels heavy.. I toss it aside and make something that dives a bit etc.  Also... little things are over-looked like flushing the weight holes off perfectly (no mine aren't always perfect either    )  Then we come to paint.. no custom colors, no attention to detail... just a coat of white a coat of pink... white... green.... white black.  High volume and custom aren't the same... hell a lot of it is outsourced to the phillipines!  I'm not knocking the high volume guys for doing what they have to do to meet their demands... I'm SOOOO glad I don;t have those demands, I do this because I love to do it, and if it became a REAL job, It'd probably ruin building for me and maybe even (gulp!) fishing!  It's one of those whatever floats your boat deals... some guys love the competition of making more than Habs or Better than Beachmaster, I get a kick out of hearing about good fish taken on a plug I made and what little money I earn goes toward my student loans or more likely eels   .  Those are the diff's I see...
 
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			03-16-2007, 06:33 AM
			
			
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		 Yeah, I'm thinking of hanging out my shingle and getting rich too.  
 
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			03-16-2007, 07:21 AM
			
			
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				Yeah, I'm thinking of hanging out my shingle and getting rich too.  
 
Numbskull Plugs 
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  Random Lopsided Action 
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 Too funny George, too funny!  
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-16-2007, 12:53 PM
			
			
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I can't imagine anyone selling, not using a cnc, or a  duplicator, templates, and any form of layout, jigs etc. that they can to speed the process.. of a proven prototype.. if they have to test, & tune, & swim each one.. the logistics of that, are a plan for failure, as a company. 
			
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 I once asked Mike Fixter why no two of his plugs are exactly the same in dimension. He said (and I paraphrasing here) that for him, the fun of building was in creating each piece differently. He said that if they were all the same, he'd quickly lose interest. I then asked him how he can be sure a particular piece will swim properly. The answer - you guessed it - he test swims each & every one.  
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-16-2007, 01:14 PM
			
			
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				Yeah, I'm thinking of hanging out my shingle and getting rich too.  
 
Numbskull Plugs 
  No Two the Same 
  Random Lopsided Action 
  Off Center Holes 
  Unintended Colors 
  Bad Epoxy Finishes 
  Cast Like Balloons 
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NO FAIR   !!! That's my business plan!!!     
Except I plan to overcharge for my inferior product .  
I had one plug that looked more like a flounder cause the eyes were so far off.  Vincent van Gogh would be proud of some of my plugs    .  
Am I wrong for trying to make jigs for all the steps so I get a consistent plug    ?  
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-16-2007, 09:58 PM
			
			
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 Whatever smokes your shorts, you could buy a CNC machine. 
Try livelining two mackerel, one with a couple of clipped fins. 
Who will the big fish get first, the good swimmer or the one that looks like an easy target?  
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-17-2007, 07:59 AM
			
			
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