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		|  01-09-2006, 02:03 PM | #1 |  
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				close captioned for the herring impared
			 
 western red cedar, sealed in Val oil, painted with rattle cans.. clearcoated with envirotex............ a true weapon of bass distruction   |  
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		|  01-09-2006, 02:05 PM | #2 |  
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		|  01-09-2006, 02:06 PM | #3 |  
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				 | I call this one the "Surf Tog" 
both plugs also have 600Lb test Crock swivels from M&D's. I will never go back to rosco's agian   |  
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		|  01-09-2006, 02:29 PM | #4 |  
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				 | Eben, those are nice.
 Just curious, did you have a problem with the rosco swivels ?  I've bent the vmc 3x's but the swivel held ??
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		|  01-09-2006, 02:38 PM | #5 |  
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				 | I have bent them and I have noticed that they corrode after time. 
 The Crock's are stainless. when you have a stainless throughwire, and then attach all kinds of different metals to it (swivel, galvanized tail hooks, split rings) you will get electrolosis which causes the corrosion.
 In a perfect world i would use stainless hooks on the tail too, but i cant afford them at this point.
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		|  01-09-2006, 02:45 PM | #6 |  
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				 | I was thinking about trying this stuff on siwash hooks with bucktail to prevent rust. May be a cheaper alternative to SS hooks. Don't know how well it works but its from a reputable manufacturer.http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...h-results1.jsp |  
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		|  01-09-2006, 03:21 PM | #7 |  
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				 | Those are some dastardly dannies Eben...nice work!  |  
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		|  01-09-2006, 03:33 PM | #8 |  
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huh, thats interesting. my only thoughts is it will add a tad of weight to the hook. try it out and let us know how it works   |  
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		|  01-09-2006, 04:10 PM | #9 |  
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				 | ever try using that thing that come's on all reel's?? called a drag. they work very well if used. save's on bent hook's and most hardware. |  
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		|  01-09-2006, 04:25 PM | #10 |  
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				 | corrosion CS... corrosion. rosco's are not stainless. 
 The bent swivel was from hoisting a bass up a rock by the plug. It damaged the needlefish too.. left a nice V in the blank.
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		|  01-09-2006, 04:36 PM | #11 |  
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				 | that tog is going to be killer whe the sea robins are   |  
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		|  01-09-2006, 05:07 PM | #12 |  
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				 | Nice plugs.  
 Over the years I've had swivels rip out/fail a number of times.  Usually in smaller plugs (i.e., medium Dannys) although I've pulled one in a big Danny and even, I think, an Atom.  All have been on just medium sized fish and always in older plugs, usually ones that had seen lots of use, so you are probably right about corrosion being a factor.  I also think, however, that they rate swivels with a straight pull, but when used in a plug, particularly the front swivel gets strained at an extreme angle and is prone to fail. In spite of this I still often find myself using smaller swivels in plugs than I want, either to fit the grommet, or to not project too much, so I appreciate the lead on stronger hardwear.
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		|  01-09-2006, 05:08 PM | #13 |  
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				 | Vic i have not yet posted the surf robbin yet.. those are getting painted next week     
BTW.. none of these are for sale.. all spoken for.   |  
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		|  01-09-2006, 05:35 PM | #14 |  
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				 | Nebe ,,, you swim that yet ??? I was trying to make a slim danny and had trouble rolling out   with slim prophile |  
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		|  01-09-2006, 05:41 PM | #15 |  
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				 | same style as i used all last year-  no problems.. try westen red. |  
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		|  01-09-2006, 05:46 PM | #16 |  
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				 | Nene, Great Paint! Let us know how they swim. |  
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		|  01-09-2006, 06:21 PM | #17 |  
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				 | Nice paint, the fish will eat them |  
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		|  01-09-2006, 06:39 PM | #18 |  
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				 | Nice, Nice. I bet I know where you will be in April and May. Nice colors indeed  |  
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		|  01-09-2006, 06:45 PM | #19 |  
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				 | striperhound......  
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		|  01-09-2006, 06:58 PM | #20 |  
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				 |   I gots me an nebe herring just like that    
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		|  01-09-2006, 07:02 PM | #21 |  
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				 Nebe ,,, you swim that yet ??? I was trying to make a slim danny and had trouble rolling out   with slim prophile |  Actually they will pop out if I throw one in a heavy rip like what you would have at the canal.... we have a few places down here with that kind of current and for that i throw jigs and darters, so i never have problems... Dannies for me are all about calm still water, V-wakes and quiet coves with boulder fields.  
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		|  01-09-2006, 07:54 PM | #22 |  
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		|  01-09-2006, 08:06 PM | #23 |  
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				 | now it's getting interesting.... ...plug builder...make's plug...swivel's get green,,,but builder dosen't change out swivel's when  swivel's get tired.?? |  
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		|  01-09-2006, 08:39 PM | #24 |  
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				 Dannies for me are all about calm still water, V-wakes and quiet coves with boulder fields. having 2 hooks really helps in the stabillity dept as well.
 |  Really ? I got to try that one (calm water thingy).My favorite Danny water are leftover hurricane swells , hard southwest before the cold front or budding nor'easter,went water looks like a wash machine.Never cared for Danny in calm waters ,usually went with Atom Jr. 
I must come to your parts in the spring for a lesson ....   
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		|  01-09-2006, 09:15 PM | #25 |  
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				 now it's getting interesting.... ...plug builder...make's plug...swivel's get green,,,but builder dosen't change out swivel's when  swivel's get tired.?? |  
nope.. plugbuilder uses the best hardware possible so swivels wont turn green    
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		|  01-09-2006, 09:44 PM | #26 |  
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				 | Nebe..can I call you Eben ,,, what lip are you using ... I know its possible (slim danny),,, just failed and moved on .. |  
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		|  01-09-2006, 09:49 PM | #27 |  
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				 | im using the stock NJ tackle danny2 lip.. 2 slots- I use the top slot& bend the loop down a pinch. bottom slot makes them roll too much IMO..
 
 also, its really not that slim.. the nose is a pinch wider than the lip
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		|  01-09-2006, 09:54 PM | #28 |  
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		|  01-09-2006, 10:02 PM | #29 |  
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				 | Nebe, Try making the plug face and the lip the same width and cutting about 1/8" off the lip in front, replicate the radius of the arc. That combination swam pretty good in current for me. I also trimmed a few lips down in width (PIA!!!) and that seemed to help, too. |  
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		|  01-09-2006, 11:40 PM | #30 |  
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				 | Nice work once again E.. |  
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