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			12-07-2005, 11:13 AM
			
			
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		 Well, it's celebrated because it's a national holliday, which is somewhat odd...I think the number of people who would call themselves Christian is below 80%. 
 
Regardless, the USA isn't a theocracy. It's our diversity that makes us strong. 
 
I don't think anybody cares about what you call your tree Skip, that's not even part of the argument. 
 
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			12-07-2005, 12:37 PM
			
			
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		 With all the personalities, headlines and story plots that come out of there, "Provincetown" would probably make for a good TV show.  My dad sent me an article a couple months back about a woman from P'town who had met her old boyfriend in a parkinglot in Orleans so she could get back some of her things from him.  They ended up in a big argument and she grabbed some drugs off the seat of his car, never took her stuff, and made off with it.  So he reported it and she got arrested.  On top of that she had to go to court because she ran a therapy or massage business and had been shut down because iot was reported to be very dirty inside, but she wouldn't let the health department in to inspect.  So she goes to court for that and while she's there she gets pi$$ed off at something and gets up on all fours a table and farts at the judge.  The judge was quoted saying he couldn't tell if they were real or fake.  Only in Provincetown. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-07-2005, 12:54 PM
			
			
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		Jimbo... LMAO   .. I've often thought the same thing, but, it would be so freaking strange, nobody would ever believe it could happen.. truth is waaaay stranger than fiction up there in never never land.    
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-07-2005, 01:13 PM
			
			
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				"And stop listening to O'Riley and Hannity " 
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 More like Michal Savage then O'Riley; at least Bill O'Riley occasionally makes an educated informed statement; Savage just spouts off like a JackAss
 
Now I am far from the most PC guy out there; I sometimes call women chicks, and tell off color jokes.  and I disagree with what the selectmen/women did.  that being said;
 
Skip; your welcome to your beliefs, thats what makes america great, the fact that you can believe what you want to believe, this all started because there was no women in the painting; I take that to be feminism, and yeah a touch of racism (the native american issue) thats why she didnt want it there.  Where you make the jump to Gay is because it happened in P-Town.  Was the selectwomen gay? Maybe, probably, hell I dont know, but the freaks and retard comments are kind of childish when you're trying to make a serious point.  It's like arguing politics and then calling spence a doo-doo head or something.  And to assume they are in PETA; give me a break.  If you cant make a good argument dont bring in other things to try and fill a response it makes it look like your original argument was weak to begin with 
 
In my opinion this was a stupid idea, and the 3 selectmen were wrong.  Fine, done argue that.  Leave the gay thing out of it, it just happened to be in P-Town.  And you're right you arent going to change my beliefs on those issues or you change yours, just save the arguments for when they are valid and relate to your original issue.
 
and your other tangent, frankly I dont care what people call their tree, call it whatever they want.  Decorate it in your front lawn and the Bombas can dance around it without their bathing suits (shudder) do whatever you want.  My take on this was that the relig. right was trying to drum up some press; how do they do that. Say, Boston calls their tree a Holiday tree, lets sue them and make them call it a Christmas tree.  Hell, IF they hadn't caved they probably could have won, since the city can call the tree whatever they hell they want.   
I'm not a religious guy, I call it a christmas tree by convention.  Most people do, if a state or city or office wants to call it a holiday tree WHO GIVES A CRAP.. 
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"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
 
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			12-07-2005, 01:18 PM
			
			
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				jeez I cant believe I just wasted my time getting into this thread...... 
			
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 I think my posts gave the threat a certain legitimacy that suckered you in    
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			12-07-2005, 01:29 PM
			
			
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		Actually I just wanted to type spence and doo-doo head in the same sentance    
		
		
		
		
		
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"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
 
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			12-08-2005, 07:55 AM
			
			
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		 Two thoughts: 
     1. Remember- even the Pilgrims left that place pretty quickly 
     2. Maybe we should ban the painting of the signing of the    Constitution. The picture shows absolutely no representation from Asians, women, Islamic fundamentalists, physically handicapped individuals, or lepers. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-08-2005, 08:33 AM
			
			
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				According to Friday's Cape Codder, the selectmen have reversed their vote and are keeping the painting right where it is. 
			
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should never have come up in the first place   
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely. 
 
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook! 
 
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
 
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			12-08-2005, 06:52 PM
			
			
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		If you know P-town, and I do,  ( Half my Family hails from there, the other half Morgantown WVA...go figure and if that's not bizarre enough, raised in Northeastern Kentucky; Hatfield and McCoy territory, redneck central) you'd know that the town is about inclusion and acceptance. They're considering everyone, trying not to leave anyone out. That's all. Holiday Tree? Holy Day Tree?    doesn't take anything away from me, just includes others. You know, if you go through life afraid of what you don't understand , or with a chip on your shoulder for whatever, you miss things, nice things and nice people.  
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-08-2005, 07:42 PM
			
			
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		Not belabouring the gay issue, but I do remember reading a number of years ago that the year round population of P-Town was 75 % gay.  I am glad they left the picture alone though.  Where else can you go and see a guy who is 6'4" and dressed up like Barbara Eden from the I Dream of Jeanie show?  I think what SKIPN is referring to is the perfect world adherents.  Thier is a tremendously large group of people trying to make the world perfect and it never will be.  I think one of the greatest attributes we possess as a people is the diversity of our populace but thier divergent views as well.          
 
And Spence you can be pretty god damn funny sometimes!   
 
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			12-08-2005, 08:59 PM
			
			
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		Even with the spelling error? I must be on to something    
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