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 I really think one big problem is the young are more interested in their social media feeds and are either tuned out to what is happening, or believing all the spin those working this coup are putting on their phones.  If and when the massive marches and demonstrations begin, I hope the military aren’t going to blindly follow orders if those orders means silencing free speech by force.  Wait until the job market that clearly shows what Trump and Musk are up to tanks, hope you are too heavily invested in the stock market.  
		
		
		
		
		
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		 And just like that, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau homepage, consumerfinance.gov, is being erased. As of January 30, 2025, CFPB enforcement actions resulted in 
$19.7 billion in consumer relief. 
 
The budget for 2025 for CFPB is $823 million. Since its creation in 2011, the CFPB has returned $20.7 billion to consumers 
 
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		 So let me understand what Trump and Republicans claim is happening with Musk and Trump 
 
They all claim Trump has won an Historic mandate. And his is doing what  Americans elected him to do…  
 
We all a know the mandate line is a lie.   
 
But can Republicans or supporters explain why Trump with such a mandate In control of the presidency the House and the Senate  
 
Be so weak. That their entire agenda is based on executive actions! 
 
You know the ones republicans claimed and I quote  
 
Burgum, a Trump ally who has been floated as his potential running mate, responded: "We've got three branches of government and this president, more like any other, has bypassed Congress. 
 
As recently as October, now-President Biden said you can’t legislate by executive action unless you’re a dictator. Well, in one week, he’s signed more than 30 unilateral actions, and working Americans are getting short shrift,” Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell 
 
Or.  The party of voter ID was against  
 
Republicans and conservative activists have increasingly been targeting an executive order issued three years ago by the Biden administration that is intended to boost voter registration, claiming it’s unconstitutional and an attempt to interfere in the November election. 
 
Anyone else see a pattern ..  republican terms an EO by definition from a democratic is evil and is circumventing  the roll of congress and the constitution! Yet an EO by Trump is leadership  with no mention of the role of congress or the constitution….   Is the word mandate in the constitution? 
		
		
		
		
		
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		 Everyone was warned and those that helped put him in office wanted this apparently, or just assumed it was all talk.  Trump and Musk are exposed for exactly who they are, Americans and true conservative patriotic republicans better wake up soon or it will be to late.  Another perfect example of who he is was shown in his shameful tweet about why the department of education is being scrapped, don’t want ugly teachers in the schools. 
		
		
		
		
		
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		 JD Vance 2022 in case you had any doubt why the FFOTUS picked him  
 
He said he thought this was pessimistic. "I tend to think that we should seize the institutions of the left," he said. "And turn them against the left. 
We need like a de-Baathification program, a de-woke-ification program." 
"I think Trump is going to run again in 2024," he said. "I think that what Trump should do, if I was giving him one piece of advice: Fire every single midlevel bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state, replace them with our people." 
"And when the courts stop you," he went on, "stand before the country, and say—" he quoted Andrew Jackson, giving a challenge to the entire constitutional order-"the chief justice has made his ruling. Now let him enforce it." 
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		 I would say they’re writing the Democrats campaign but I think they’ve convinced MAGA that bureaucrats have magical powers. 
There’s a reason the President is Article 2 in the Constitution. 
 
BASH: I remember a time when Republicans were very careful about the government having access to personal data 
 
NOEM: Well, we can't trust the government anymore 
 
BASH: You are the government 
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		Trump keeps yelling waste fraud and abuse. And corruption  
Yet since . As of February 9th.  of this year he's visited Mar-A-Lago more times. Than the WH.   His supporters don't seem to care, apparently enriching himself by playing at his own properties and charging the Secret Service up to $650 a day to stay at those properties
 
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				Trump keeps yelling waste fraud and abuse. And corruption  
Yet since . As of February 9th.  of this year he's visited Mar-A-Lago more times. Than the WH.   His supporters don't seem to care, apparently enriching himself by playing at his own properties and charging the Secret Service up to $650 a day to stay at those properties
 
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		Apparently FElon has spent millions for a propaganda add about USAID during the superbowl  
Here’s a little video to get out in front of his lies
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		 Candidates for top intelligence and law enforcement jobs were asked to give “yes” or “no” responses to questions such as: Was Jan. 6 “an inside job?” 
 
 
That’s funny not one of Trump nominees. Would answer hypothetical questions, 
 
 
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		 I did not write this but it makes an earlier comment I made .. better  
 
I. believe our current administration is fascist. Not because I dislike them or because I can’t get over an election, but because I've spent too many years reading and learning about the Third Reich to miss the similarities. Not because any administration I dislike must be Nazis, but because things are actually mirroring authoritarian and fascist regimes of the past. 
		
		
		
		
		
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		 I think either his good friends are paying him or he’s just a moron. Both have the same result. 
 
Trump: "I'm gonna tell Elon very soon, like maybe in 24 hours, to go check the Department of Education. He's gonna find the same thing. Then I'm gonna go to the military. Let's check the military. We're gonna find billions, hundreds of billions of dollars of fraud and abuse." 
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		 Mark Cuban moments ago: 
"If you have nothing to hide, hide nothing. Elon Musk, why not invite some democrats to work side by side with your Doge teams and report on what exactly is going on?" 
 
He’s right, there’s no proprietary software or information involved. 
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		 Over the past 24 hours, officials ranging from billionaire Elon Musk to Vice President JD Vance have not only criticized a federal judge's decision early Saturday that blocks Musk's Department of Government Efficiency from accessing Treasury Department records, but have also attacked the legitimacy of judicial oversight, a fundamental pillar of American democracy, which is based on the separation of powers. 
 
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		 We will see if they ignore the Courts. 
Some of what they are doing assumes future evil plans. 
You wouldn't dismantle the agency (CFPB) that has and would protect consumers from corporate abuse and scams unless you wanted your rich buddies to be able to abuse and scam consumers. 
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Very informative, simple to the point historical basis.   But it comes down to will Trump supporters be  willing to admit they’ve been lied to..  like the man asked .    
 
Honestly, I doubt it. They will just label this Trump derangement syndrome.     Which is actually a Trump supporter affliction.
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		 I agree.   As I often say, “Its a cult”.   Just like jonestown everyone was willing to die before they could grasp it was all a ridiculous stack of lies.   
 
 
I think that the average trump voter will just blame joe biden and obama for the pain that Trump and Co are going to put on them or say its just a natural market correction.    Real pain is coming down the pipe for the not so well off. 
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				I think that the average trump voter will just blame joe biden and obama for the pain that Trump and Co are going to put on them or say its just a natural market correction.    Real pain is coming down the pipe for the not so well off. 
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 Of course. None of this will be Trumpy's fault. It will be blamed on Biden or the Derp State. 
 
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		 Well the FFOTUS is threatening everyone that he’ll invoke tariffs again. He’s doing this by using emergency powers that were foolishly given to the Presidency by Congress. 
 
Section 8: Powers of Congress 
 
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises,  
 
He’s playing a dangerous game where the United States holds at best 30% of the chips and threatening the holders of the other 70%. 
He’s counting on BRICS who hold 36% of the chips to not be able to get any of the remaining third of the world economies to join them. 
Unless he succeeds in his current coup, he will likely only hold the house and senate thru the midterms. 
They all realize that and are waiting to see what happens in the short term. 
Any combination of players can buy Canadian oil and LNG to make up the Canadian shortfall, this in turn will drive energy prices up in the USA by half. 
China has banned the export of a number of rare minerals to the United States and we cannot easily replace them, Canada has some of them but do you think they trust FFOTUS? 
These are interesting and scary times we are living in 
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		This is from an article in The Atlantic  
It’s gifted on Bluesky in the link
 
"The US is sliding toward a more 21st-century model of autocracy: competitive authoritarianism—a system in which parties compete in elections but incumbent abuse of power systematically tilts the playing field against the opposition...retreat to the sidelines could be fatal for democracy."
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		 If we make it to the mid terms and there are actually elections, I suspect our democracy might survive.  If Trump and his billionaire buddies have their way, it will be over before then and it might take drastic action to reverse it, I wouldn't want to bet my kids future on which way it goes. 
		
		
		
		
		
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		 Nothing to worry about  
 
We call upon our elected representatives to stand with us and to insist upon adherence to the rule of law and the legal processes and procedures that ensure orderly change. The administration cannot choose which law it will follow or ignore. These are not partisan or political issues. These are rule of law and process issues. We cannot afford to remain silent. We must stand up for the values we hold dear: The ABA will do its part and act to protect the rule of law. 
We urge every attorney to join us and insist that our government, a government of the people, follow the law. It is part of the oath we took when we became lawyers. Whatever your political party or your views, change must be made in the right way. Americans expect no less. 
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		 Just saw google maps.  Changed Gulf of Mexico to gulf of America..   it’s amazing how cowardly these private companies are. Bending the knee to Herr Trump 
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