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		 Florida will start the school year with a 9,000 teacher shortage, only 25% of 3rd graders reading proficient, lagging SAT scores + more. 
  
While schools suffer, DeSantis attacks LGBTQ kids and wants you to think your child's teacher is a groomer. 
 
 Floridians deserve better than that. 
 
Jim thinks that would be great for the country as a whole. 
 
Ya know, to own the libs, especially “hens” 
 
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		 the Florida Legislature passed a bill granting approval for former and present members of the military to teach in classrooms. Republican Governor Ron DeSantis announced the move as part of an $8.6 million package to expand career and workforce training opportunities for veterans  
 
the state would issue a temporary teaching certificate to veterans "who have not yet earned their bachelor's degree." 
 
Candidates must have a minimum of 60 college credits with a 2.5 grade point average and a passing score on a Florida subject area examination for bachelor's level subjects.  
 
I saw nothing that the bachelor degree be educated related? 
 
The Department is proud to provide a five-year temporary certificate  
 
Only the best for the children of Fla  
 
Being a veteran in no way shape or form makes you a better teacher and no experience or a degree in education .  What could go wrong 
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				You’re being led by fox by the nose and don’t even realize it.  . 
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				You’re being led by fox by the nose and don’t even realize it.  . 
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 in other words, you can’t refute anything in my post, but you’re too small to admit it, so lob am insult and then run away.
 
I have shown the ability to think for myself, to praise and criticize both sides. You are a blind partisan extremist.  So who’s being led by the nose?
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		 Poor victim  
 
Not surprised that Christina Pushaw, Ron DeSantis spokeswoman, registered 4 years late as agent of Georgian politician Mikheil Saakashvili 
 
Saakashvili has ties to Ukrainian pro-Kremlin former dictator Viktor Yanukovich. The guy that Manafort, Gates (Trump 2016) and Devine (Bernie 2016) worked for. 
 
Imagine having to battle against a governing party when your party attempted a coup and is obsessed with bathrooms and bedrooms. 
 
While the GOP has been taking away rights, banning books and threatening children in libraries the Democratic party has been getting things done.  
 
The Democratic party has been working to preserve those rights and keep government out of your home. 
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				Poor victim  
 
Not surprised that Christina Pushaw, Ron DeSantis spokeswoman, registered 4 years late as agent of Georgian politician Mikheil Saakashvili 
 
Saakashvili has ties to Ukrainian pro-Kremlin former dictator Viktor Yanukovich. The guy that Manafort, Gates (Trump 2016) and Devine (Bernie 2016) worked for. 
 
Imagine having to battle against a governing party when your party attempted a coup and is obsessed with bathrooms and bedrooms. 
 
While the GOP has been taking away rights, banning books and threatening children in libraries the Democratic party has been getting things done.  
 
The Democratic party has been working to preserve those rights and keep government out of your home. 
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 who’s a victim?  desantis?  with the almost 60% approval rating, in a state people are moving to in huge numbers?
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				the Florida Legislature passed a bill granting approval for former and present members of the military to teach in classrooms. Republican Governor Ron DeSantis announced the move as part of an $8.6 million package to expand career and workforce training opportunities for veterans  
 
the state would issue a temporary teaching certificate to veterans "who have not yet earned their bachelor's degree." 
 
Candidates must have a minimum of 60 college credits with a 2.5 grade point average and a passing score on a Florida subject area examination for bachelor's level subjects.  
 
I saw nothing that the bachelor degree be educated related? 
 
The Department is proud to provide a five-year temporary certificate  
 
Only the best for the children of Fla  
 
Being a veteran in no way shape or form makes you a better teacher and no experience or a degree in education .  What could go wrong 
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 wayne i have no doubt that every state in the deep south, has many places where i’d never want to raise my kids ( as does Connecticut).
 
But you’re missing, or more likely avoiding, the point.  Here it is…
 
There are some red states which have some beautiful suburbs with great schools, and a very low price tag in terms of taxes
 
I’ll ask you again, can you please name a thriving suburb in a blue state with good schools, a good quality of life, and very low taxes?  
 
If i move to a beautiful suburb in FL or NH, I don’t especially care what the trash is doing in another part of the state, any more than i care what’s happening in  hartford or bridgeport from my CT suburb. I live in a nice CT suburb, it’s 20 miles from the liberal, failing sh*the of hartford, and that doesn’t diminish my quality of life where i am.  
 
Please, list some great suburbs in blue states where successful people 
are moving, which have very low taxes?
 
Or will you simply admit that all such places are in red states?
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		 It’s simple and perfect if you seem to have low taxes? 
 
ITEP figures analyzed by the West Virginia Center on Budget and Policy show that prime-age employment — job opportunities for those between the ages of 24 and 55 — has grown at a more rapid clip in the nine states with the highest income taxes over the past decade than the nine states with no income tax. 
 
Florida relies on sales taxes and has the 24th most affordable combined state and average local sales tax rate in the nation, while its property taxes are above the national average, according to the Tax Foundation. Tennessee has the highest average combined sales and local tax rates in the country, at 9.55 percent. 
 
Homeowners in New Hampshire end up paying the third-highest property tax rate in the country (1.89 percent), the Tax Foundation’s estimates found, while Texas isn’t far behind at 1.6 percent. New Hampshire derives 63.8 percent of its revenue from property tax money, the most of any U.S. state. 
 
Cost of living is also a prominent factor. Florida, Washington, Nevada, Washington and New Hampshire were among the 20 most expensive states to live in, according to 2021 data compiled by the Council for Community & Economic Research, which takes into account grocery, transportation, health and housing costs. 
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				It’s simple and perfect if you seem to have low taxes? 
 
ITEP figures analyzed by the West Virginia Center on Budget and Policy show that prime-age employment — job opportunities for those between the ages of 24 and 55 — has grown at a more rapid clip in the nine states with the highest income taxes over the past decade than the nine states with no income tax. 
 
Florida relies on sales taxes and has the 24th most affordable combined state and average local sales tax rate in the nation, while its property taxes are above the national average, according to the Tax Foundation. Tennessee has the highest average combined sales and local tax rates in the country, at 9.55 percent. 
 
Homeowners in New Hampshire end up paying the third-highest property tax rate in the country (1.89 percent), the Tax Foundation’s estimates found, while Texas isn’t far behind at 1.6 percent. New Hampshire derives 63.8 percent of its revenue from property tax money, the most of any U.S. state. 
 
Cost of living is also a prominent factor. Florida, Washington, Nevada, Washington and New Hampshire were among the 20 most expensive states to live in, according to 2021 data compiled by the Council for Community & Economic Research, which takes into account grocery, transportation, health and housing costs. 
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 i didn’t say low taxes are perfect ( though it is simple), and i very specifically said there are many many places in the deep south where you couldnt pay me to live. 
 
i’m sorry if that’s going too fast for you.
 
I’ve asked guy this specific question many times, and you always run away and hide. 
 
Please name some nice, thriving suburbs in blue states that have super low taxes. 
 
I’ll wait.  Now you go run away and hide.
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				i didn’t say low taxes are perfect ( though it is simple), and i very specifically said there are many many places in the deep south where you couldnt pay me to live.  
 
i’m sorry if that’s going too fast for you. 
 
I’ve asked guy this specific question many times, and you always run away and hide.  
 
Please name some nice, thriving suburbs in blue states that have super low taxes.  
 
I’ll wait.  Now you go run away and hide. 
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 Concord NH 
Oh wait, it doesn’t have super low taxes
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				in other words, you can’t refute anything in my post, but you’re too small to admit it, so lob am insult and then run away. 
 
I have shown the ability to think for myself, to praise and criticize both sides. You are a blind partisan extremist.  So who’s being led by the nose? 
 
 
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 you insult yourself by posting such a nonsense story About  Ron and the HENS on the view 
 
Fox ran that story just so  you would be  outraged and Yell F ya  Conservatives VS LIBS  ...  and you took the bait . AKA led by the Nose 
 
not I single news source  I watch or read post this kind of tabloid Trash and then present it as News .  
		
		
		
		
		
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				wayne i have no doubt that every state in the deep south, has many places where i’d never want to raise my kids ( as does Connecticut). 
 
But you’re missing, or more likely avoiding, the point.  Here it is… 
 
There are some red states which have some beautiful suburbs with great schools, and a very low price tag in terms of taxes 
 
I’ll ask you again, can you please name a thriving suburb in a blue state with good schools, a good quality of life, and very low taxes?   
 
If i move to a beautiful suburb in FL or NH, I don’t especially care what the trash is doing in another part of the state, any more than i care what’s happening in  hartford or bridgeport from my CT suburb. I live in a nice CT suburb, it’s 20 miles from the liberal, failing sh*the of hartford, and that doesn’t diminish my quality of life where i am.   
 
Please, list some great suburbs in blue states where successful people 
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Or will you simply admit that all such places are in red states? 
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every State red or Blue  has it Gems and its #^&#^&#^&#^& holes!  thats just America 
 
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				you insult yourself by posting such a nonsense story About  Ron and the HENS on the view  
 
 
Fox ran that story just so  you would be  outraged and Yell F ya  Conservatives VS LIBS  ...  and you took the bait . AKA led by the Nose  
 
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 problem is, i’m not outraged. i love how the desantis team responded. He hits almost every pitch out of the park, which is why (1) the whole country wants to move to his state, and (2) why you all fear him so 
much.   you fear  him as much as you hate trump, and you’re right to.
 
if you’re not led around by the nose, just list the issues  on which you disagree with democrats?  simple. 
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		Blacksburg, VA 
Monroe,CT 
Fair lawn, NJ 
Folsom,CA 
Mt Lebanon, PA 
Ann Arbor, MI 
Chandler, AZ
 
Plenty more in this list of most affordable cities with best schools  
Some in red, some in blue 
None in NH or FL
 
I’ll wait. Now you go run away and hide.
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				Blacksburg, VA 
Monroe,CT 
Fair lawn, NJ 
Folsom,CA 
Mt Lebanon, PA 
Ann Arbor, MI 
Chandler, AZ
 
Plenty more in this list of most affordable cities with best schools  
Some in red, some in blue 
None in NH or FL
 
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 https://dwellics.com/rankings/most-a...-schools-2022#
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 Monroe Ct has super low taxes?  compared to FL, NH, TN, NC, SC?
 
oh man you are precious.
 
i am very familiar with Monroe, i lived one town over.  Beautiful place. But very very expensive in terms of taxes, and that’s what the state/town controls. 
 
 Oh man you are precious. Just keep making it up to fit The Narrative. 
 
How did you conclude that Monroe CT had super low taxes?  i’m dying to know. 
 
CT state and local taxes are among the highest in the country.
 
Looks like your “data” ignored state taxes?  that’s not putting your thumb on the scale
 
Saying a town in CT is low cost while 
excluding state taxes, is like evaluating the maiden voyage of the Titanic while 
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				Monroe Ct has super low taxes?  compared to FL, NH, TN, NC, SC? 
 
oh man you are precious. 
 
i am very familiar with Monroe, i lived one town over.  Beautiful place. But very very expensive in terms of taxes, and that’s what the state/town controls.  
 
 Oh man you are precious. Just keep making it up to fit The Narrative.  
 
How did you conclude that Monroe CT had super low taxes?  i’m dying to know.  
 
CT state and local taxes are among the highest in the country. 
 
Looks like your “data” ignored state taxes?  that’s not putting your thumb on the scale 
 
Saying a town in CT is low cost while 
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 Perhaps the people who made the list had different parameters to define affordable than you. 
Most people do. 
Let’s see what they considered
 
When determining the most affordable US cities with the best schools, Dwellics analyzed over 50,000 U.S. cities to compile a list of the Top 100: Most Affordable U.S. Cities with Outstanding Education. Among the ranking factors include taxes, child care cost, property prices, approximate rental or mortgage costs, and the cost of living index. For education, the ranking factors for cities included the average teacher salary, teacher-to-student ratio, math proficiency, reading and language arts proficiency, and the number of blue ribbon schools.
 
Just what parameters would you choose to consider, only the ones that fit your narrative?
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				Perhaps the people who made the list had different parameters to define affordable than you. 
Most people do. 
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When determining the most affordable US cities with the best schools, Dwellics analyzed over 50,000 U.S. cities to compile a list of the Top 100: Most Affordable U.S. Cities with Outstanding Education. Among the ranking factors include taxes, child care cost, property prices, approximate rental or mortgage costs, and the cost of living index. For education, the ranking factors for cities included the average teacher salary, teacher-to-student ratio, math proficiency, reading and language arts proficiency, and the number of blue ribbon schools. 
 
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 yes the people 
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				problem is, i’m not outraged. i love how the desantis team responded. He hits almost every pitch out of the park, which is why (1) the whole country wants to move to his state, and (2) why you all fear him so 
much.   you fear  him as much as you hate trump, and you’re right to. 
 
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 In Florida, the GOP, led by Gov. Ron DeSantis, is blocking out traditional journalists from campaign events and has instead primarily talked to right-wing media.
 
Yep keep supporting authoritarian views !  it’s you whos afraid you fear freedom fair elections  the press  gay trans groomers …
 
Please     you are  the one afraid
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 Well, if your potential income doesn’t matter you probably would consider moving to a no income tax state but, ITEP figures analyzed by the West Virginia Center on Budget and Policy show that prime-age employment — job opportunities for those between the ages of 24 and 55 — has grown at a more rapid clip in the nine states with the highest income taxes over the past decade than the nine states with no income tax.
 
Why would anyone move to a no income tax state, because they were past prime age or just to own the libs? 
Because there’s a great return on that, isn’t there?
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Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you? 
  
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		 Talk of 'invasion' moves from the fringe to the mainstream of GOP immigration message 
 
More GOP authoritarian tendencies or lies 
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		 More about the GOP move toward authoritarianism  
 
Tuesday underscored that denying the 2020 election results is a prerequisite for winning office in many Republican races. GOP voters in Arizona supported candidates who said they would take away voting machines and voting by mail and who have said they might even refuse to certify 2022 or 2024 election results. 
 
The GOP also has spent the past year ostracizing the few left in their party who want to investigate the violence of the Jan. 6 insurrection and trying to oust them from Congress 
 
And Evidence keeps emerging of candidates’ links to extremism. Supporters or sympathizers of QAnon — the sprawling set of false claims that coalesced into an extremist ideology — abound in these congressional primaries.  
 
Trump allies are putting together plans to replace nonpartisan civil servants with loyalists in government, should he win office again. 
 
Republican voters increasingly view the Jan. 6 insurrection as “legitimate protest” rather than a “riot.” 
 
And figures such as Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban — who recently warned that Europeans must not “become peoples of mixed race” — are being celebrated in some circles of the Republican Party. 
 
It all suggests that the Republican Party’s driving animus in the era of Trump isn’t policy or even ideology. It’s a more authoritarian take on government that democracy experts worry could slowly erode it. 
 
 
And of course these experts and concerned citizens who dare criticize the dear leader Trump or  his mini me Ron  omg drag queens ! Or all the other behaviors listed will be dismissed by those who look in the mirror and See a freedom loving Patriotic American.   need to give Snow White her mirror back  
 
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 You have to love it when Jim brings out is best of posts, we all love to know how impartial he is in pointing out the pros and cons of his own party and of course criticizing the left leaning posters for never acting as impartial as he does.  Who doesn't love the best of hit called the world is moving to FL single, it's always a favorite.  I personally can't get enough of the classic; how many times have I posted I hate Trump, but the entire country loves his policies hit.  There just are to many to mention, I can't wait until the TV starts to sell the CD's of Jim's favorite rerun posts, it's going to sell out fast.  
		
		
		
		
		
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		 Ron using his office as an arm of his 2024 campaign ambitions  
 
Thursday suspended State Attorney Andrew Warren, the chief prosecutor for the 13th Judicial Circuit covering Hillsborough County, after calling him "woke" and accusing him of refusing to properly enforce certain laws. 
 
The governor cited positions Warren has taken on abortion laws, transgender medical treatment and other issues. 
 
DeSantis framed the issue as upholding the rule of law  Ya ok  from the man who’s silent on his party’s behavior in the last election 
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		 DeSantis' first TV campaign ad filled with letters of praise for Florida governor 
 
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				DeSantis' first TV campaign ad filled with letters of praise for Florida governor 
 
DeSantis smiles when a narrator ( possibly Jim) reading a letter says, “Watching you beat back the woke, liberal media makes me so proud 
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 here, MSNBC host calls him a white nationalist.
 
As we all know, baseless claims of racism are what the left routinely engages in, when they know they listened wants but are too small to admit it.  when a liberal calls a conservative a racist with zero evidence, that means the conservative had won the debate. always. 
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		 It’s implausible, impossible that there’s racism on the right….. 
 
It should be a bigger deal that Viktor Orban spoke at CPAC Dallas. His own minister resigned over his Nazi style rhetoric decrying "race mixing." The overt white supremacy is not a bug, it's a feature. 
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		 FL teachers are speaking out after attending Desantis’s new mandatory 3-day ‘patriotic history’ indoctrination seminars. One example they cited was that students would be told Washington & Jefferson opposed slavery, while omitting the fact that they owned them. 
 
When he denounces CRT, he means  Civil Rights Teaching. 
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