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		At a campaign stop, he said to a young girl, “I guarantee you, I guarantee you, I’m gonna end fossil 
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But he’s not hostile to fossil fuels.
  
		
		
		
		
		
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		 great response.  
 
you looking forward to november? 
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		 Poor victim  
 
The purpose of legitimizing propaganda is to have a seemingly independent third party claim something. Then HE points to that person and says, “See? He’s saying the same thing! It must be true!” 
 
Soaring inflation is a truly global phenomenon, with the U.S. near the middle of the pack, according to an analysis of 111 countries. 
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				Poor victim  
 
The purpose of legitimizing propaganda is to have a seemingly independent third party claim something. Then HE points to that person and says, “See? He’s saying the same thing! It must be true!” 
 
Soaring inflation is a truly global phenomenon, with the U.S. near the middle of the pack, according to an analysis of 111 countries. 
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 how am i a victim?
 
You guys denied biden was hostile to fossil fuel, so i post a video of him being extremely hostile 
to fossil fuels?
 
I can’t be the victim, when i just clobbered you.
 
Biden isn’t singularly responsible for inflation.  I’ve said that 50 times, so i don’t know why you keep pointing that out, or who you’re responding to.   But, he added trillions of dollars into circulation, and any honest person will tell you that fuels inflation.  So he made it worse.  And polling shows america knows it.
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		 Once agin anything Biden  says is taken literally  
Anyone with an R it’s hyperbole? 
 
 
Mr Trump asked his challenger: "Would you close down the oil industry?" 
"I would transition from the oil industry, yes," responded Mr Biden, adding, "because the oil industry pollutes significantly". 
 
Biden said fossil fuels had to be replaced by renewable energy over time with the US moving towards net zero emissions.  In 2050  
 
The POTUS doesn’t have the power many Americans think he has 
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				Once agin anything Biden  says is taken literally  
 
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 so we should ignore what he actually says, and wait for the translation.
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				so we should ignore what he actually says, and wait for the translation. 
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There is no translation for most of the things Biden says.       
He puts Mumbles Menino to shame with his articulate use of the English language 😜 
I laugh my ass off every ride home from work listening to Howie Carrs daily Biden Blunders. 
Come on man, you know the thing… 
Today it was a recording of a guy singing Sinatra’s Summer Wind 
But instead it was Solar Wind taken from a recent Biden speech.      
Biden’s wife should be shot for allowing them to make the guy stand in like Weekend at Bernie’s.
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				so we should ignore what he actually says, and wait for the translation. 
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 Jim the comments were from 2019 during an election stop 
 
But. You think what Biden said about fossil fuels (even after clarifying the statement) is bad for America 
 
to bad you and the rest of the Maga crowd don’t care that Trumps still claiming the election was still stolen and  
Isn’t the real Threat to our country
 
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		 Biden’s wife should be shot  
 
Different thread. Shooting  9mm to get better  
 
Let me guess Hyperbole? 
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				Jim the comments were from 2019 during an election stop  
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 so we should assume he’s lying when he’s campaigning?  
 
I never want to see Trump again, so i can’t imagine why you refer to me as a trump loyalist.  i’d vote for any republican other than  him in a primary. 
 
Wayne,,one of us criticizes his side regularly.  the other one never criticized his side, never under any circumstances. One of us agrees with each side on some big policy issues, the other one thinks one side is correct 100% of the time.
 
Who’s the blind thoughtless partisan, and who can think for himself?  Do you even know?
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		https://www.bbc.com/news/business-61803496
Petrol prices hit new highs every day for a month
 
The cost to fill a family car now stands at about £103 for petrol, and £106 for diesel, it said.
 
The war in Ukraine and moves to reduce dependence on Russian oil have helped drive up fuel prices, putting households under pressure as food and energy bills also soar.
 
The average petrol price is now 186.59p per litre, with diesel at 192.48p.
 
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Petrol prices hit new highs every day for a month
 
The cost to fill a family car now stands at about £103 for petrol, and £106 for diesel, it said.
 
The war in Ukraine and moves to reduce dependence on Russian oil have helped drive up fuel prices, putting households under pressure as food and energy bills also soar.
 
The average petrol price is now 186.59p per litre, with diesel at 192.48p.
 
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 (1) Biden chose to come across as hostile to oil.  his choice, he owns the effects.
 
(2) covid was also a global event.  How many times did you point that out to defend Trump?  Exactly Zero.
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				so we should assume he’s lying when he’s campaigning?   
 
I never want to see Trump again, so i can’t imagine why you refer to me as a trump loyalist.  i’d vote for any republican other than  him in a primary.  
 
Wayne,,one of us criticizes his side regularly.  the other one never criticized his side, never under any circumstances. One of us agrees with each side on some big policy issues, the other one thinks one side is correct 100% of the time. 
 
Who’s the blind thoughtless partisan, and who can think for himself?  Do you even know? 
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 Jim people took bidens words and confronted him accordingly  
And his remarks were clarified as they should have 
 
No one on the republican side no one minus Liz and Adam are confronting Trump and his election lies and his MAGA cult are electing election deniers in Primarys across the nation ..  that's why I have no use for the current GOP  
 
They are putting Trump (man) their jobs (staying elected) before the country all while yelling America 1st   its all a lie ! while  hiding behind patriotism ! when it's closer to Nationalism and fascism rolled into one   once you pull back the curtain. and see what's actually happening    
		
		
		
		
		
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				(1) Biden chose to come across as hostile to oil.  his choice, he owns the effects. 
 
(2) covid was also a global event.  How many times did you point that out to defend Trump?  Exactly Zero. 
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covid was also a global event.  How many times did you point that out to defend Trump?  Exactly Zero.
 
Trump's Failing with covid wasn't covid 
 
. it was how he didn't deal with covid  
 
thats where he gets the blame ...   not he caused it
 
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				Jim people took bidens words and confronted him accordingly  
And his remarks were clarified as they should have 
 
No one on the republican side no one minus Liz and Adam are confronting Trump and his election lies and his MAGA cult are electing election deniers in Primarys across the nation ..  that's why I have no use for the current GOP  
 
They are putting Trump (man) their jobs (staying elected) before the country all while yelling America 1st   its all a lie ! while  hiding behind patriotism ! when it's closer to Nationalism and fascism rolled into one   once you pull back the curtain. and see what's actually happening    
			
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 no one is co fronting trump.
 
so you’ve never ever heard of never trumpers
 
and i’m talking about me. you said i keep 
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		Biden Tells Oil Refiners: Produce More Gas, Fewer Profits 
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/joe...15/id/1074496/
and the classic MAGA comments start following
 
So Brandon addresses and treats private companies as if he's a socialist dictator and they are state-owned and beholden to his mandates
 
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				no one is co fronting trump. 
 
so you’ve never ever heard of never trumpers 
 
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so you’ve never ever heard of never trumpers
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		 It’s 100 degrees today in Odessa Texas and the city just told its 122,600 residents that they could be without water for the next 48 hours. 
 
That’s what decades of voting in a Republican government will do for you. 
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 but they themselves, the never trumpers, don’t like trump.
 
i never said everyone in the gop is opposed to trump. You said no one is. it’s false.
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		 Actually it's that no Republican politician dare go against Trump, because they will be primaried. 
 
Someone asked us why we criticize the GOP much more than the Democrats. 
 
It's simple: While we disagree with Democrats on certain policies, (especially the "Squad"), they're not a threat to our democracy. 
 
Today's GOP headed by Trump poses an existential threat to our republic. 
 
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!  
 
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you? 
  
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				Actually it's that no Republican politician dare go against Trump, because they will be primaried. 
 
Someone asked us why we criticize the GOP much more than the Democrats. 
 
It's simple: While we disagree with Democrats on certain policies, (especially the "Squad"), they're not a threat to our democracy. 
 
Today's GOP headed by Trump poses an existential threat to our republic. 
 
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was potus for 4 years, for half that time his party controlled congress. in what ways did he destroy our democracy?  did he unilaterally change the constitution?
 
I see Bidens press secretary saying that Biden encourages people to protest ( intimidate) outside the homes of supreme court judges who  don’t rule the way Biden wants.  That’s not a threat to our democracy.  
 
Trumps not on the ballot in 2022, so inflation, especially this inflation, is a legitimate concern.  You’re about to find out how much of a concern it is, and who Americans blame for it.
 
But you’ve got January 6, and the voting block of people 
who want to take their young kids to drag queen shows. You’ll do great.
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was potus for 4 years, for half that time his party controlled congress. in what ways did he destroy our democracy?  did he unilaterally change the constitution? 
 
I see Bidens press secretary saying that Biden encourages people to protest ( intimidate) outside the homes of supreme court judges who  don’t rule the way Biden wants.  That’s not a threat to our democracy.   
 
Trumps not on the ballot in 2022, so inflation, especially this inflation, is a legitimate concern.  You’re about to find out how much of a concern it is, and who Americans blame for it. 
 
But you’ve got January 6, and the voting block of people 
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in what ways did he destroy our democracy?
 
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		 Just like the guy charged with attempted murder of Kavanaugh, success is not required to commit a crime. 
Jan. 6 committee has exposed Trump’s lies, indicted the GOP in the process, and utterly destroyed the “big lie” that the 2020 election was stolen. They clearly demonstrated the GOP’s willingness to lie and undermine democracy to override the American voters. 
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		 Eastman relayed in previously undisclosed email that he had awareness of a debate among SCOTUS judges about whether to listen to an election case. 
Another Trump lawyer, Ken Chesebro, suggested the justices may be more inclined to weigh in if they had “fear” of “‘wild’ chaos” on Jan 6. He said it five days after Trump’s “wild” tweet about his Jan 6 rally. 
The emails are among a tranche the House select committee has, according to people familiar with their work. 
It’s unclear what, if anything, Eastman was basing his claims on. Equally striking is Chesebro’s statement about pressuring the justices to agree to hear a case for fear of “wild” chaos on Jan. 6. 
“I don’t have the personal insight that John has into the four justices likely to be most upset about what is happening in the various states, who might want to intervene, so I should make it clear that I don’t discount John’s estimate,” Chesebro wrote. 
The email exchange took place on Christmas Eve in 2020, five days after Trump’s “Be there. Will be wild!” tweet. 
Chesebro email is in some ways more striking, as it’s unclear whether Eastman actually had information, while Chesebro openly described wanting to create a certain climate by which the justices would act. 
…provided the committee with crucial evidence about the role played by Mr. Eastman, who conceded during an email exchange with Mr. Jacob that his plan to overturn the election was in “violation” of federal law.’  No wonder Eastman was advised to get a good lawyer. 
 
But Kavanaugh…… 
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				Just like the guy charged with attempted murder of Kavanaugh, success is not required to commit a crime. 
Jan. 6 committee has exposed Trump’s lies, indicted the GOP in the process, and utterly destroyed the “big lie” that the 2020 election was stolen. They clearly demonstrated the GOP’s willingness to lie and undermine democracy to override the American voters. 
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 i agree success isn’t a prerequisite to a crime.  But wdmso clearly implied trump “has destroyed” our democracy in some ways. 
 
what are the ways i’m which Trump “has destroyed” ( and that does require some 
success) our democracy?
 
which parts of our democracy were intact in 2016 which trump 
destroyed?
 
I see a threat to SCOTUS that i’ve never seen before in my lifetime, and Trump isnt behind it.
 
And i’m not saying Trump's a great guy.  But our democracy survived him just fine
 
anything to avoid talking about Bidens results. Anything.  And they’re getting worse. 
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				Eastman relayed in previously undisclosed email that he had awareness of a debate among SCOTUS judges about whether to listen to an election case. 
Another Trump lawyer, Ken Chesebro, suggested the justices may be more inclined to weigh in if they had “fear” of “‘wild’ chaos” on Jan 6. He said it five days after Trump’s “wild” tweet about his Jan 6 rally. 
The emails are among a tranche the House select committee has, according to people familiar with their work. 
It’s unclear what, if anything, Eastman was basing his claims on. Equally striking is Chesebro’s statement about pressuring the justices to agree to hear a case for fear of “wild” chaos on Jan. 6. 
“I don’t have the personal insight that John has into the four justices likely to be most upset about what is happening in the various states, who might want to intervene, so I should make it clear that I don’t discount John’s estimate,” Chesebro wrote. 
The email exchange took place on Christmas Eve in 2020, five days after Trump’s “Be there. Will be wild!” tweet. 
Chesebro email is in some ways more striking, as it’s unclear whether Eastman actually had information, while Chesebro openly described wanting to create a certain climate by which the justices would act. 
…provided the committee with crucial evidence about the role played by Mr. Eastman, who conceded during an email exchange with Mr. Jacob that his plan to overturn the election was in “violation” of federal law.’  No wonder Eastman was advised to get a good lawyer. 
 
But Kavanaugh…… 
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		 But wdmso clearly implied trump “has destroyed” our democracy in some ways. 
 
wow you can't see How ? I am shocked  
 
Yet you can see Brett almost got assassinated ? 
 
 
FYI hearing no evil and speaking no evil and seeing no evil isn't an insult  its the current position of the GOP and most of their supporters 
		
		
		
		
		
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				But wdmso clearly implied trump “has destroyed” our democracy in some ways. 
 
wow you can't see How ? I am shocked  
 
Yet you can see Brett almost got assassinated ? 
 
 
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 you still won’t specify and pillars of mouse democracy that no longer exist thanks to him.  i can only assume 
you can’t think of any to list. 
 
the guy at Kavanaughs house got charged with attempted 
murder, which is not a charge they ( especially with democrats in charge) apply lightly.  
 
stocks dropping, mortgage rates soaring, housing prices have to drop, almost nothing the north in power. an feel 
good about at this point.
 
who do you think the democrats will run in 2024?  that’s a sincere question.
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