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		 [QUOTE=Tagger;737977]nice plug Fred ,,, Cape Cod Ceadar ? Flap refferrance ..  
 
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From an Eastern Cedar in my front yard. From the top of it you can see P-town and beyond to Wood End and Race Point. Look the other way and you can see Head of the Meadow and Coast Guard. Look South and you can see Pamet and beyond. Not that I was ever in the top of that tree... 
		
		
		
		
		
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				nice plug Fred ,,, Cape Cod Ceadar ? Flap refferrance ..  
 
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				Here is Frank in a few more of the finished body! A little more hand sanding and Frank will have them in sealer! Nice work Frank and a great day! Thanks for coming by.....and for the coffee!   
			
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I, as well as many other people are lucky to call Bigfish a friend.  Larry did most of the first one, then we split the second one, and he said he didn't look as I did the third one all myself, but I think Bigfish looked over my shoulder a little.
  
In that picture of me holding the two plugs I look strange.  I think I was OD'ing on sawdust.  Or the meds for the pulled back muscles were wearing off.  Any way I had a wonderful day in the cave with Bigfish.  Now I just have to keep from screwing up the paint job. 
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		 Hey Lu ... took a while to do that .. hope your still there .. any help appreciated .. I have no control just winging it on the belt sander .. Shorter plug was much longer ,,but I planned to make some single hook ,, still need a method ... This can't be the way Heddon di it .. Atom like plug I'm not sure on the face yet .. but I plan to do cotter pin hangers on there .. Made flaptail brackets myself .. Bought picture hanging kit and threw everything away ,, just wanted brass nails .. sure there's a better way there too .. Beetle Juice !!!!! 
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
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		 Glad you guys like. I feel the key is the slow drying paint. Testers spray enamel and the Krlon Short cuts set up to touch in 30 min. The 12 min spray colors tack quickly when you remove the wrap or slide thru your latex gloved hand. Gotta go. Will ck. in later. Have a sparkling week. 
		
		
		
		
		
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				Hey Lu ... took a while to do that .. hope your still there .. any help appreciated .. I have no control just winging it on the belt sander .. Shorter plug was much longer ,,but I planned to make some single hook ,, still need a method ... This can't be the way Heddon di it .. Atom like plug I'm not sure on the face yet .. but I plan to do cotter pin hangers on there .. Made flaptail brackets myself .. Bought picture hanging kit and threw everything away ,, just wanted brass nails .. sure there's a better way there too .. Beetle Juice !!!!! 
			
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				Eddy i am making the same type of lure (Heddon Vamp) i will be making a jig to make the faces today i will send all info and take pics for you as i figured an easy way to do it. 
			
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				BF and Frank, did you cut the front of the pencil on a bandsaw? The bottom looks like you maybe used a drum sander??? 
 
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		 Eddie had pm'd me to ask if I hyrdro oriented the darters and it was an interesting question so I am posting the answer here. 
 
I did not hydro orient them this year (at least not yet).  The end grain of maple soaks up a lot of sealer, in fact I oversealed a batch last year and they were too heavy to float once they were wired.   
 
last year I hydro oriented them before cutting the slope, and after they were sealed, some of them floated differently.   I think the weight of the sealer absorbed thru the end grain on the darter slope made them float differently. 
 
There was a discussion a few years back about hydro orienting I think on SOL, and someone had said that if a primed blank of theirs floated wrong, they'd found if they just sprayed another coat of primer on one side that the weight of the paint was enough to even it out.  So I was going to try that this year. 
		
		
		
		
		
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		 Eddy here is the jig i made today for doing the faces on the Vamps. 
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
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		 nice Lu ... you screw the blanks on jig up thru the bottom ? 
		
		
		
		
		
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		trying to make this ,,, Heddon (swimmer-flaptail) in upper right hand corner .. PIA .. very labor intensive .. I can see I already messed up line tie ,, mines horizontal .. I never saw a flaptail swimmer .. can't see it swimming very well ,, Thanks Lu .... nice inferno Numby .. 
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		 Morning guys. started painting the army of plugs. An endless task, especially when you have airbrush hell. finally search threads on brush remedies. Cutting paint w/50/50 windex and water worked much better than straight water. Plus I was using to thick of consisitency. The single stage gun was used for base coats and top/bottom colors. Dual stage for fogging and lateral lines. I use the Bernzy formula for cleaning. Lucky for myself I have a utility sink w/in reach of my airbrush to clean out w/air and hot water. Had the heat gun set up to set the paint. Don't know if necessary but I like the way the paint dries to faciitate a second coat or color overlay. Haven't spun anything inweeks. Prepping the plugs to get ready for paint took all spare time. I have a template made for a GTS-2 & GTS-3. Hope everyone had a good week. 
		
		
		
		
		
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		 Good mornin' all.  I got so much in the works I'm getting dizzy.  Only a month to finish it........gonna be ugly.  Nothing is past the primer stage and most haven't even seen sealer yet.  
 
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			01-17-2010, 08:51 AM
			
			
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			 Uncle Remus 
			
			
			
				
			
			
				 
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					Originally Posted by  numbskull
					 
				 
				Good mornin' all.  I got so much in the works I'm getting dizzy.  Only a month to finish it........gonna be ugly.  Nothing is past the primer stage and most haven't even seen sealer yet.  
 
Winter ain't long enough these days. 
			
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 i hear you george. I have not primed anything yet. I think this year I am not going to kill myself this last month and bring what I have finished and that's it. Will give me more time to visit others and enjoy myself more. Last year was very hectic the last few weeks and it got to be not fun.I am looking at a few hundred sealed plugs right now and I know there is no way in hell they are all getting finished and I don't really care.  
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-17-2010, 08:59 AM
			
			
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		 Hi guys, I have a few plugs to epoxy from last year and many scattered bodies but I'd like to turn a few before the fest. I was thinking of trying that bluefish bomb plug. 
		
		
		
		
		
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