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		|  04-10-2007, 10:24 AM | #1 |  
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				This Imus thing
			 
 I am a regular Imus listener. I have heard things on that show that have made me laugh so loud I almost got in an accident. They make fun of and insult EVERYONE. I can't belevie the controversy over his remarks are making such a big noise, the racism comments are ridiculous. Does anyone here watch the Chapelle show? South Park? Race is used as comedy all the time on these shows.The only way race as an issue will go away is when we learn to laugh at each other and not let stupid comments make the news.
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		|  04-10-2007, 10:37 AM | #2 |  
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				 | agreed rijimmy. when it comes to comedy no one should be untouchable. if one can't distiguish between this and real racism then we have a problem in society.
 
 Black people can say bad things in reference to comedy about white people and it should be the same the other way around. Does anyone really think Imus is a racist... cmon, stop already.
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		|  04-10-2007, 10:46 AM | #3 |  
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				 | I could not agree more RIJ.  While Imus' statement could indeed be categorized as racist, I don't think it was racially motivated and that makes a big difference.  Many talk show hosts in general push that envelope and everyone laughs, even if it's a guarded laugh.  If you've ever heard some of the stuff Leno says, looking right at  Kevin Eubanks and he never comes back and cries racist, nor does anyone else.  I think Al Sharpton felt he hadn't been in the limelight in a while and Imus was his perfect opportunity.  I didn't see the Rutgers Women's basketball team's press conference, but I was curious their response.  They certainly weren't that verbal about it up to that conference. |  
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		|  04-10-2007, 10:49 AM | #4 |  
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				 | There's another thread pertaining to this down in the S-B sports forum, check it out  |  
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		|  04-10-2007, 10:58 AM | #5 |  
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				 | THomcat - why the angry post...... |  
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		|  04-10-2007, 11:00 AM | #6 |  
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				 | What a tempest in a tea pot. The guy has a great shpw. Sharpton is an racist and a liar (Brawley) Its obvious he hates whites. There is a double standard being used here, yet again. I have zero guilt about what happened in the past...get over it. |  
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		|  04-10-2007, 11:15 AM | #7 |  
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				you dont know how bad
			 
 i wanna make a nappyheadedho picture with a black imus playing basketball against those girls...    but i shall restrain myself. 
i think Imus does many good humanitarian things that far outweigh 
the goof he made...  saying that, since he wasn't really in a comedy sketch ...but  hey they're all goofin on each other and crackin jokes 
more than anythin else...  and when john kerry blew his chance of re election by uttering   "study hard  or you'll get sent to Iraq "...he wasn't asked to resign as Senator.       i hate al shapton and jesse jackson...    they chase prejudism like ambulance chasin lawyers 
so bad.............................. 
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		|  04-10-2007, 11:23 AM | #8 |  
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				 | You might not like the comment, and I find it somewhat distatsteful, but nonetheless its free speech.  He is an entertainer, not an intellectual.  Howie Carr like......
 In retrospect my distaste had to do with how I knew it would be accepted by americans of african decent.  They would howl and demand justice.  So I suppose my initial interpretation was somewhat shallow, because now that I realize this words/phrase is quite common in the black community.  So if blacks can say it, so can IMUS.
 
 And it sickens me to hear Sharpton called reverend.  Sharpton I don't believe ever went to college.  No college, no degree in theology.  No right to call yourself reverend.  We have a kid in Whitman trying to take over a local church.  Calls himself a reverend after attending a six-week bible school in the Berkshires.
 
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		|  04-10-2007, 11:37 AM | #9 |  
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				 | We live in a world full of double standards and political correctness run amok.  All we can do is reject those ideas and do what we feel is right.   If it offends anyone, too damn bad. |  
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		|  04-10-2007, 11:45 AM | #10 |  
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					Originally Posted by Swimmer  You might not like the comment, and I frid it distatsteful, but nonetheless its free speech.  He is an entertainer, not an intellectual.  Howie Carr like...... |  Swimmer, I think you hit the nail on the head. he is being judged as a journailist, not a comedian. Al Roker has an editorial on MSNBC.com saying he should be fired. Lets ask Dave Chapelle, Chris Rock, or other blac comedians if what he said is wrong.  
We are talking about a guy that calls Cheney "a lying Fat Bastard". Have you ever heard the Ray Nagin routines? 
If you dont like what he says, dont listen to the show. Its that simple. |  
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		|  04-10-2007, 11:47 AM | #11 |  
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				 | Considering the climate I think he got off pretty lucky. The guy is an intelligent guy and it amazes me that he can not see that he is just playing into the hands of the extremists on both sides when he makes comments like that.  However if there is free speech he should be able to say what he wants and the marketplace will decide if he should be penalized. I think if we are honest with ourselves and we were the parents of one of the Rutgers' players we would be pretty upset and hurt. |  
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		|  04-10-2007, 11:51 AM | #12 |  
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				 | Would you be upset and hurt? I learned a little something in first grade which I would share with the rest of america.."sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me"
 WHo cares what people say, whether its race, religion, politics, looks. the racism card gets too much play. If I was a parent of a kid on teh rutgers team , Id say "F him, my daughter is great and nothing will ever get in her way in life. "
 Thats what builds character, not whining about other peoples thoughts and comments.
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		|  04-10-2007, 11:55 AM | #13 |  
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				 | This is the best, Kurtz appears regularly on Imus' show. I think the Jews should ask for an apology,,,
 Howard Kurtz, media critic for The Washington Post and host of CNN's "Reliable Sources," said Imus is known for his comedy, but "his comedy too often strays into the offensive."
 
 Kurtz, whom Imus once called a "boner-nosed, beanie-wearing Jew boy," said Imus should be held accountable for his remarks, "but there is also a good side to Don Imus, and I don't think that should be completely obliterated in all of this chest thumping."
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		|  04-10-2007, 12:05 PM | #14 |  
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				 | "Would you be upset and hurt? I learned a little something in first grade which I would share with the rest of america.."sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me" Who cares what people say, whether its race, religion, politics, looks. the racism card gets too much play. If I was a parent of a kid on teh rutgers team , Id say "F him, my daughter is great and nothing will ever get in her way in life. "
 Thats what builds character, not whining about other peoples thoughts and comments."\
 
 We'll said RI Jimmy...we'll said.....
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		|  04-10-2007, 12:14 PM | #15 |  
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					Originally Posted by RIJIMMY  Swimmer, I think you hit the nail on the head. he is being judged as a journailist, not a comedian. Al Roker has an editorial on MSNBC.com saying he should be fired. Lets ask Dave Chapelle, Chris Rock, or other blac comedians if what he said is wrong. We are talking about a guy that calls Cheney "a lying Fat Bastard". Have you ever heard the Ray Nagin routines?
 If you dont like what he says, dont listen to the show. Its that simple.
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I'm sure he regrets what he said, if he loses his job, he'll never forgive himself. Lets see Sharpton pony up for all those kids with cancer then. |  
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		|  04-10-2007, 12:26 PM | #16 |  
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				 | patrice oneil, a black comedian, today on sean hannity said, and this pretty much sums it up,calling these girls nappiheaddedho's is much different than calling them nappiheadded athletes.meaning one of the two is quite racial while the other is just said in fun. plus having an old guy say nappyheaded ho is pretty funny in and of itself.
 
 patrice also said that he wants white people to be able to say this type of stuff so he can continue to make his white jokes.
 
 i couldnt agree more.
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		|  04-10-2007, 12:35 PM | #17 |  
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					Originally Posted by Raven  i   i hate al shapton and jesse jackson...    they chase prejudism like ambulance chasin lawyers 
so bad.............................. 
they're makin a livin at it     |  those two say more racist things that anyone. 
 
something about the pot calling the kettle lavender.
 
woh i just went through a whole bunch of colors in my head before i found a neutral non racial color.    |  
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		|  04-10-2007, 12:36 PM | #18 |  
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					Originally Posted by The Iceman 6  "Would you be upset and hurt? I learned a little something in first grade which I would share with the rest of america.."sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me" Who cares what people say, whether its race, religion, politics, looks. the racism card gets too much play. If I was a parent of a kid on teh rutgers team , Id say "F him, my daughter is great and nothing will ever get in her way in life. "
 Thats what builds character, not whining about other peoples thoughts and comments."\
 
 We'll said RI Jimmy...we'll said.....
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		|  04-10-2007, 12:43 PM | #19 |  
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		|  04-10-2007, 12:52 PM | #20 |  
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				 south park material 
 i hope the southpark gang jumps all over this....   
hearin them kids sayin nappy headed ho  will be awesome
 
it  would also make a bitchin badass song for the rappers 
or  one of them bands....
 
it's gonna go huge...    someones gonna grab it ! 
and make it the catch phrase of 07 in a song. 
this i predict...    it's way to catchy
 
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		|  04-10-2007, 12:58 PM | #21 |  
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					Originally Posted by MrHunters  those two say more racist things that anyone.  
something about the pot calling the kettle lavender.
 
woh i just went through a whole bunch of colors in my head before i found a neutral non racial color.    |  But then you got onto sexual preferences....see how goofy this whole thing is? Just words said in jest. Mean nothing at all. Who cares what Imus said, his words carry no real weight. |  
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		|  04-10-2007, 01:36 PM | #22 |  
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				 | Back to RI Jimmy: I would not want my kid being called a whore by a national media personality. And while I hope she would shrug it off and consider the source I do not think it is very nice. And this is not the end of it. They will be called that at games for the next few years.  That being said if Imus is to go down the same standard should apply to all music types both rappers and  metal who go around calling people whores etc. The standards should be applied across the board. |  
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		|  04-10-2007, 01:57 PM | #23 |  
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	Maybe I used the wrong icon. I'm not angry but more like in shock that these two nitwits (the revs) are trying to be representitive of of an entire race because they are an embarrasment to that race. If you read my comments on the S-B Sports forum, I made my sentiments pretty clear. The more I think about it though, the more I think that Jackson & Sharpton are actually benfitting Imus from their blatently racist bully pupits. Although it seems as though it would be impossible to generate any sympathy for Imus at this time, these guys, with their off the wall antics and accusations, seem to be working the best they can to do just that!!Quote: 
	
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		|  04-10-2007, 03:44 PM | #24 |  
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				 | I believe the comment was Nappy Ho's refferring to a college girls team .. Don't sound right period...nevermind coming from an old rotted white guy with a cowboy hat .. Imus sux ... Howard must be loving this .. Heard Howie Carr is .. |  
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		|  04-10-2007, 04:27 PM | #25 |  
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				 | Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton are 2 of the BIGGEST racist on the planet !!! |  
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					Originally Posted by ThomCat  Maybe I used the wrong icon. I'm not angry but more like in shock that these two nitwits (the revs) are trying to be representitive of of an entire race because they are an embarrasment to that race. If you read my comments on the S-B Sports forum, I made my sentiments pretty clear. The more I think about it though, the more I think that Jackson & Sharpton are actually benfitting Imus from their blatently racist bully pupits. Although it seems as though it would be impossible to generate any sympathy for Imus at this time, these guys, with their off the wall antics and accusations, seem to be working the best they can to do just that!!  |  
Those bold  letters, there burning my eyeballs to the point that I can't comfortably read your posts. 
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				 | So what does this say about race relations in this country?
 Heck, I thought things were pretty well...and this is how much difficulty we have dealing with the off color comments of a known irreverent satirist?
 
 I was happy Imus was defending himself on NBC this morning against Rev. Sharpton...but enough is enough.
 
 These smart and talented women who make up the Rutgers team should state without question..."sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me"...and stand up for themselves.
 
 They have accomplished far too much to let the media take their second place finish away from them.
 
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					Originally Posted by Redsoxticket  Those bold letters, there burning my eyeballs to the point that I can't comfortably read your posts.Bold letters means like your screeming
 |  Let me apologize for the bold letters as I don't mean to burn any parts of any contributor here. I have poor vision (understatement) and I do it for my own benefit as it makes it easier to review what I've posted. I'll stick to the standard type from now on as I don't have the defensive resources to be screaming at anyone. Please judge me on what I say rather than the manner in which I deliver it   . 
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		|  04-10-2007, 08:08 PM | #29 |  
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				 | What we have today is reverse racism and especially reverse sexism. Look at the feminist movement. In the art world, gallerys always have womens shows that only show the works of women. Try doing a man only art show and the critics will hang you out to dry as a chauvinist pig.
 Like someone said above, if Dave Chapelle said the exact same things Imus did, people would be laughing thier asses off...
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				 | Too bad he's sober - could have blamed it on the booze, checked into Betty Ford and gotten around it...So much is orchestrated these days - I'm not so sure this was not on purpose. If the show stays on the air, I'll be certain it was. Two days before this happened I was watching him and thinking how stale the show had become.
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