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				Though fighting some of the worst coronavirus outbreaks, highly vaccinated states have largely managed to keep the worst outcomes of infection at bay and data on hospitalizations and death rates largely shows states with above-average vaccination rates to fare far better than their poorly vaccinated counterparts. 
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 most vaccinated states  Updated Thursday, December 23rd, 2021
 
1. Vermont 
Number of people fully vaccinated: 478,975 
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 76.76
 
2. Rhode Island 
Number of people fully vaccinated: 803,760 
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 75.87
 
3. Maine 
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,012,527 
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 75.32
 
4. Connecticut 
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,646,581 
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 74.23
 
5. Massachusetts 
Number of people fully vaccinated: 5,107,652 
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 74.1
 
6. West Virginia 
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,283,677 
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 71.63
 
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				wayne...get on your little research bus and note how many states and countries are breaking daily case records...particularly the most vaccinated 
			
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 it’s not not about the surge , it’s about Ron patting himself on the back in November trying to score political points with his base who are more likely unvaccinated and who are fueling the explosion and the breading ground for new Variations of the virus 
 
The conservatives line is oh look the vaccines don’t work people who are vaccinated still get Covid … it just more misinformation they latch to like a life raft ..
 
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				most vaccinated states  Updated Thursday, December 23rd, 2021 
 
1. Vermont 
Number of people fully vaccinated: 478,975 
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 76.76 
 
2. Rhode Island 
Number of people fully vaccinated: 803,760 
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 75.87 
 
3. Maine 
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,012,527 
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 75.32 
 
4. Connecticut 
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,646,581 
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 74.23 
 
5. Massachusetts 
Number of people fully vaccinated: 5,107,652 
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 74.1 
 
6. West Virginia 
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,283,677 
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 71.63 
 
 
 
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BY CHRIS MILLS RODRIGO - 12/25/21 02:16 PM EST 
 
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 DeSantis has declared victory over COVID-19 on: 
4/20/20 
4/28/20 
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5/20/20 
9/25/20
 
3/2/21 
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6/4/21 
10/14/21 
10/28/21 
11/27/21
 
Among other dates.
 
Today, Florida broke its record in new cases which was set yesterday.
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				DeSantis has declared victory over COVID-19 on: 
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Among other dates. 
 
Today, Florida broke its record in new cases which was set yesterday. 
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 Day by day, week by week, every state breaks records.  Sometimes high and sometimes low.  Becomes fodder for keyboard warriors.  Like a ghastly new age sport.  Last gender standing is the winner.  
		
		
		
		
		
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		 Pete, you commented on FL daily over the summer when their data was awful.  Then in the fall when they had some of the best statistics in the country, you refused to mention FL.  now that their umbers are bad again, you’re all 
over it. 
 
do you not see your bias there? 
 
do you think we don’t all know what you’re rooting for here? 
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				Pete, you commented on FL daily over the summer when their data was awful.  Then in the fall when they had some of the best statistics in the country, you refused to mention FL.  now that their umbers are bad again, you’re all 
over it. 
 
do you not see your bias there? 
 
do you think we don’t all know what you’re rooting for here? 
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 You consistently praised the virtues of DeathSantis, claiming his policies were the best of all. 
Odd that his best statistics were found to be falsified  
Have you forgotten?
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				You consistently praised the virtues of DeathSantis, claiming his policies were the best of all. 
Odd that his best statistics were found to be falsified  
Have you forgotten? 
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 and when his numbers were bad, i had no trouble speaking to that or admitting it. i’m capable 
of criticizing those i agree with.
 
we’re getting to a point where number of cases is t going to mean much, because most of us are going to get covid regardless of what our state does or doesn’t do.  what matters is death rates, adjusted for the population of elderly in each state, compared to the degree of lockdowns in that state. FL could 
come out looking horrible in that view.  
 
You guys all still refuse to criticize Cuomo for the way he handled things, but you attack Desantis.   they can only be because of rabid partisanship.  What other reason is there?
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		with the exception of west virginia(who pete hates)..the top ten "highly vaccinated" states are all at record levels of cases and most are still trending up(wait for the Christmas booster)......the bottom ten "poorly vaccinated" states are not....they might get there but they aren't even close to the rise in cases currently occuring in the "highly vaccinated" states...doesn't really seem fair 
Joe Biden   OCT 2020 
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We're eight months into this pandemic, and Donald Trump still doesn't have a plan to get this virus under control. I do.
   
		
		
		
		
		
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		 pete's beloved south korea 
 
DEC 22 South Korea is struggling to contain a surge in Covid-19 cases, reporting 7,456 infections on Wednesday and a record number of people with serious symptoms, as countries across Asia face a similar battle. 
 
The new infections bring South Korea’s total to 583,065, while the Korea Disease Control and Prevention Agency said the number of critically ill patients rose to a new high of 1,063. 
		
		
		
		
		
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		 this makes perfect sense at a time when cases are soaring everywhere 
 
CDC cuts the recommended isolation and quarantine periods for coronavirus infections 
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				pete's beloved south korea 
 
DEC 22 South Korea is struggling to contain a surge in Covid-19 cases, reporting 7,456 infections on Wednesday and a record number of people with serious symptoms, as countries across Asia face a similar battle. 
 
The new infections bring South Korea’s total to 583,065, while the Korea Disease Control and Prevention Agency said the number of critically ill patients rose to a new high of 1,063. 
			
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 Yes, as usual the data says you’re using a number deceptively to make it into something that fits your narrative  
South Korea has a declining 14 day average of 11 while the USA has a 14 day average of 72 that has almost doubled in that time 
 
It's insane how we still have to buy tiny toothpaste and take our shoes off to board a plane 20 years after 9/11,  but 800,000 Covid deaths couldn't get us a temporary vaccine/test requirement to fly.
 
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 you were talking about breaking records....they broke a bunch
 
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				you were talking about breaking records....they broke a bunch 
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 Another one not understanding what Variant means Spewing nonsense that the covid of last year is the covid of today 
 
original covid everyone had equal exposure
 
Delta (B.1.617.2). This variant is nearly 2x as contagious as earlier variants and might cause more severe illness. The greatest risk of transmission is among unvaccinated 
 
Omicron (B.1.1.529). This variant is 4x as contagious as delta  spread more easily than other variants, including delta. But it’s not yet clear if omicron causes more severe disease.
 
Unvaccinated People Are Increasing the Chances for More Coronavirus Variants  here in America and around the world 
 
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				Another one not understanding what Variant means Spewing nonsense that the covid of last year is the covid of today  
 
original covid everyone had equal exposure 
 
Delta (B.1.617.2). This variant is nearly 2x as contagious as earlier variants and might cause more severe illness. The greatest risk of transmission is among unvaccinated  
 
 
Omicron (B.1.1.529). This variant is 4x as contagious as delta  spread more easily than other variants, including delta. But it’s not yet clear if omicron causes more severe disease. 
 
 
Unvaccinated People Are Increasing the Chances for More Coronavirus Variants  here in America and around the world  
 
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 plenty of vaccinated people are spreading it now.  they just don’t get very sick.
 
college campuses with 100% vaccination rates are seeing big outbreaks.  the vaccine appears very effective at reducing severity ( which is great) , not so much at reducing frequency.  especially with the new variant.  
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 pretty sure I never said that....
 
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				pretty sure I never said that.... 
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 promised to “shut it down.”. yet Biden has overseen more deaths.
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 we really need to force everyone in the world to get vaccinated somehow.....  
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 Too funny, the guy who doesn't understand what COVID means, telling people they don't know what variant means.   
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		 There is a measurable decline in cognitive function in people who had just ONE episode of Covid.  
 
What happens after multiple bouts with the virus? 
 
How is the economy going to look if the average age of dementia onset is 60 years rather than 84? 
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				There is a measurable decline in cognitive function in people who had just ONE episode of Covid.  
 
What happens after multiple bouts with the virus? 
 
 
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				There is a measurable decline in cognitive function in people who had just ONE episode of Covid.  
 
What happens after multiple bouts with the virus? 
 
How is the economy going to look if the average age of dementia onset is 60 years rather than 84? 
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		 because we are keeping track of these things 
 
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An unvaccinated man with underlying health conditions died in Texas on Monday after testing positive for the COVID-19 omicron variant 
 
 
 
 
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 With the exception of "wear a seatbelt or lose your job", it's exactly the same   
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				With the exception of "wear a seatbelt or lose your job", it's exactly the same   
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 I think if we are going to continue to fire people who don't have covid and are unvaccinated/unboosted....it's only fair that we also fire people who are vaccinated/boosted and get covid....  
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-29-2021, 09:09 AM
			
			
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		 Next logical step, they've obviously failed to keep society "Safe" 
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			12-29-2021, 10:30 AM
			
			
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				I think if we are going to continue to fire people who don't have covid and are unvaccinated/unboosted....it's only fair that we also fire people who are vaccinated/boosted and get covid.... 
			
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 How dare anyone make responsible behavior a condition of employment.
 
Almost every employer has a long list of things you’re required to do or prohibited from doing.
 
Bet you can think of a few all by yourself
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Don’t like it go find another job.  
 
And I am sure there have been people whom have lost their jobs for not wearing their seatbelts where required by the employer
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		 And I bet there are plenty of people not wearing a seatbelt on their way to work every morning 
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