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				Be very afraid, better put a mirror over your computer so you can see the illegals coming. 
 
There are no nuanced, grownup solutions in Chicken Little Carlson’s head. Just like a bad remake of TFG, there are good guys and bad guys and spikes and monsters and killer alligators and moats around castles. 
But it works for the base, create an enemy, vilify them and the base lines up for battle 
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				Actually, you didn't point out how anything Tucker said was wrong.  You just threw some nasty sarcastic shade at him.  That's all you got.  Fakery. 
			
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				You think everyone should believe the Swanson Heir, all you got is a bunch of talking heads on YouTube 
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		Analysis: Biden’s Policies to Drive 1.7 Million Illegal Immigrants to US in 2021 
BY TOM OZIMEK July 17, 2021 Updated: July 17, 2021
 
A new analysis by Steven Kopits, head of Princeton Policy Advisors, a think tank, projects that immigration officials could encounter nearly 1.7 million people seeking to enter the United States illegally by the end of 2021, with Kopits blaming the Biden administration’s “open border” policies.
 
The analysis comes after federal immigration officials announced that they had apprehended 188,829 people illegally crossing the southwest border in June, up from 180,034 in May. The figure includes more than 15,000 unaccompanied minors, over 55,000 family units, and over 117,000 single adults.
 “The only way to achieve such stratospheric numbers is by a deliberate policy of holding the border open,” Kopits wrote in the analysis. 
“In all but two of the last twenty-one years, June apprehensions were below May apprehensions,” Kopits wrote. “The case is just the opposite this year, suggesting that extraordinary factors—like an open border—are stimulating continued and counter-seasonal flows of illegal immigration.”
 
The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
 
In the analysis, Kopits assumes the number of apprehensions will taper off in the balance of the year, similar to what happened several decades ago, although he notes that “apprehensions are showing no signs of doing so at the moment.”
 
“Our forecast for the balance of [calendar year] 2021 assumes a decrease in apprehensions following the precedent of 2000,” Kopits wrote. “ In such an event, apprehensions at the U.S. southwest border would total 1,581,000 for [fiscal year] 2021 and 1,690,000 for calendar year 2021. The fiscal year figure would be the third worst in the historical record, and for the calendar year, the absolute worst in the historical record by nearly 100,000.”
While the number of illegal immigrants who were detected by Border Patrol but evaded capture isn’t released, Border Patrol Chief Raul Ortiz said on June 24 that the number had exceeded 250,000 so far this fiscal year. The number who are not detected and not captured is impossible to estimate. 
Since taking office, President Joe  Biden has reversed a number of border and asylum policies implemented by the Trump administration, including overturning the Migrant Protection Protocols, which required asylum seekers to wait in Mexico while their claims were processed. Biden has also proposed an immigration bill that would provide a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants living in the United States. 
Republicans have blamed Biden’s rollback of Trump-era policies for fueling the border surge, arguing that stricter rules around border security and asylum admissions serve to deter would be illegal immigrants from trying to enter the United States.
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		Ukraine's border is more important than ours.  Ukraine's national sovereignty is more important than ours.  It is more important to protect Ukraine's border than it is to protect ours: 
 
		
		
		
		
		
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				Ukraine's border is more important than ours.  Ukraine's national sovereignty is more important than ours.  It is more important to protect Ukraine's border than it is to protect ours: 
 
			
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				Coffee kool aid this morning   
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 Do we have a problem at our southern border?  Has it gotten worse since Biden took over?
 
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				Coffee kool aid this morning   
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 So you go to media broadcasters for your "roll" modeling?  That was actually a fortuitous typo or misspelling.  Most legacy media do roll their audience with biased opinions and disinformation.
 
Tucker does seem to be more equitable than other legacy media commentators.  He makes a very revealing comparison of Biden Administration views on Ukraine's border and the U.S. border.
 
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				So you go to media broadcasters for your "roll" modeling?  That was actually a fortuitous typo or misspelling.  Most legacy media do roll their audience with biased opinions and disinformation. 
Tucker does seem to be more equitable than other legacy media commentators.  He makes a very revealing comparison of Biden Administration views on Ukraine's border and the U.S. border.
 
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 So what's the  message exactly we are being invaded by mexicans 
 
  its the same old story  people like  you on the Right crying    
Carlson, the most watched host on Rupert Murdoch’s Fox News, spent all week hosting his show from Budapest and promoting Hungary as a model for America’s future.
 
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				So what's the  message exactly we are being invaded by mexicans  
  its the same old story  people like  you on the Right crying    
Carlson, the most watched host on Rupert Murdoch’s Fox News, spent all week hosting his show from Budapest and promoting Hungary as a model for America’s future.
 
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 you see no issue at all, with letting in millions of immigrants, and we don’t know who they are, during a pandemic?
 
they don’t put enormous financial 
strain on schools, hospitals, police and fire?  
 
huge amounts of drugs don’t come 
in through the southern border?
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				So what's the  message exactly we are being invaded by mexicans  
  its the same old story  people like  you on the Right crying    
Carlson, the most watched host on Rupert Murdoch’s Fox News, spent all week hosting his show from Budapest and promoting Hungary as a model for America’s future.
 
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 federal agents near El Paso say they’ve seen a 4,000% increase in fentanyl seizures over the last three years.
 
four thousand percent.
 
that’s not a big deal to you?
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				you see no issue at all, with letting in millions of immigrants, and we don’t know who they are, during a pandemic?   
 
 can you even try to be honest who is letting in who ?    you act as if there is no one on the border  
 
   
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strain on schools, hospitals, police and fire?  No jim they dont why again do repeat baseless talking points  
 
Jim your characterization of immigrants, as people who drain public resources,  is not backed by the data.  not surprising  
 
 
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in through the southern border?          Jim Drugs have always flowed from the southern Border and not a single administration has stemmed the Tide  ..  As long as Americans wish to Use Illegal Drugs they will still cross basic economics if there's a demand someone will supply   
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				It's All about Image for the GOP and Conservatives!    they love selling this image that they are For GOD Country and Family.. it's just a scam 
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illegals ( who dont pay taxes, but whose kids need to go to school, who need subsidized housing and healthcare) arent a financial strain?
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		 wdmso - drugs have always flowed i. from the southern border. 
 
i posted a story about federal agents who say fentanyl seizures are up 4,000% in the last three years 
 
 now i know it’s sort of a requirement that liberals stink at math, but do you grasp what a 4,000% increase means?  it means things are way worse now. 
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 why is that Jim why would there be a 4000% increase  because AMERICAN want their Drugs ..
 
I worked in a detox for 20 plus years  users Hate what Heroin or Oxy has done to them and their families  But they love getting High More  
every addict will tell you that..
 
PS Jim how are they increase in fentanyl seizures if were just letting people In?
 
our border is like playing Red rover  the problem always is the mexicans side (Cartels )  anticipate seizures and flood the Border with shipments ..  
 
But many Americans have no Idea of the size of the southern border or that  Each day, more than 1 million people and about $1.7 billion in commerce are processed through official ports of entry  or  Two-way trade in goods between Mexico and the United States has increased from $81.4 billion in 1993 — the year before the North American Free Trade Agreement took effect — to $557.6 billion in 2017. Mexico has remained the United States’ second-largest export market since 1995, with exports totaling $242 billion in 2017.
 
Many Americans a just uninformed and its why GOP messaging remains Simplistic at best   that's why  
 
Republicans overwhelmingly favor the construction of a wall along the U.S.-Mexican border. But Republicans who live closer to the border are less likely to support the wall than are those who live farther away.
 
Because they understand how it works 
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what they   actually they are afraid of the other , Voter Turnout ..and afraid of Change...     
			
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 You are right, part of the reason the GOP opposes illegal immigration, is that it helps them politically.
 
DO you deny that part of the reason that Democrats are OK with illegal immigration, is seeking political advantage?  The democrats want to turn TX blue.
 
But as always with you, it's only bad when republicans do it.
 
massive illegal immigration also reduces wages.  supply and demand.  it hurts poor americans.  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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 Sounds like drug imports increased during the Trump administration
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		 “ In 2018, the Border Patrol in the El Paso sector found just one pound of fentanyl outside ports of entry. In 2019, two pounds. In 2020, nine. 
 
During the 2021 fiscal year, agents have found 41 pounds so far” 
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			01-26-2022, 07:02 PM
			
			
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				“ In 2018, the Border Patrol in the El Paso sector found just one pound of fentanyl outside ports of entry. In 2019, two pounds. In 2020, nine. 
 
During the 2021 fiscal year, agents have found 41 pounds so far” 
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 clearly all Trumps fault.
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