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		If the intel is right and Trump wasn’t briefed or someone didn’t make damn sure he understood the gravity of the intel, then we have a serious problem.  If the intel is right and Trump was briefed and clearly understood the gravity of the intel and did nothing, we have a serious problem.  Either way if true Russia needs to be held accountable and part of that surely is not bringing them back into the G7. 
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
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		 The White House says the president has been briefed on the alleged Russian bounties to kill U.S. soldiers. And, they are planning to brief the Gang of Eight on the issue today. But, Tweety is calling it all a hoax. 
 
Yeah, it’s odd the WHOLE world is conspiring against 45 with all these hoaxes and even pretending to get sick and dying just to wreck his chances of re-election. The Deep World. 
 
 
Donald J. Trump 
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The Russia Bounty story is just another made up by Fake News tale that is told only to damage me and the Republican Party. The secret source probably does not even exist, just like the story itself. If the discredited @nytimes has a source, reveal it. Just another HOAX! 
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		 Sad state of affairs when the White House messaging is to confirm Trump can walk, drink and now read. 
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		 Putin’s Puppet now says he doesn’t believe our intelligence community’s conclusion that Russia is paying bounties to Taliban who kill U.S. troops. Why not? Because . . . wait for it:  
 
Because Putin TOLD him Russia isn’t doing that. Shades of Helsinki. Can this really be happening? 
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		 Can I say something? 
 
Why is it every time someone says the Silent Majority, all I can think of is those dumb ass bastards who couldn’t answer all the word prollems in mathy maths? 
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		 It really makes everyone, even his boot licking GOP cronies, question just what Putin has on Trump.  Could be the pee tapes or it will come out with the taxes or some shady family business deal will be announced after he leaves. 
		
		
		
		
		
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		 It's all connected by a common denominator 
 
Today they arrested Ghislaine Maxwell and now we know why Colludi was at the White House yesterday, Barr couldn’t stop SDNY arrest of Ghislaine. Same reason they all got together at Lutnicks house next door to Epstein’s before his arrest.  
 
SDNY just announced the Ghislaine Maxwell case, like the original Epstein case, is staffed by the Public Corruption Unit. 
 
Sex trafficking cases do NOT run out of Public Corruption, unless there is some potential angle against a public official. 
 
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		 On Thursday, Trump and Putin discussed arms control. 
 
Today, Putin announced that the Russian Navy would be armed with hypersonic nuclear strike weapons and underwater nuclear drones. 
 
Must have been another perfect phone call. 
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Today, Putin announced that the Russian Navy would be armed with hypersonic nuclear strike weapons and underwater nuclear drones. 
 
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		 Sure, Jan 
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		"It never reached my desk"..................... is not the brand of leadership our country needs. 
And his call with his puppet master was about nuclear proliferation, his most significant actual actions in that area, both withdrawing from the INF Treaty and the Open Skies Treaty, have exposed us to more proliferation.
  
		
		
		
		
		
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		 In its thousand page report released just now, ENDORSED BY REPUBLICANS, the Senate intelligence committee offers a raft of damning evidence of the Trump campaign’s eager acceptance of help from a foreign power during the 2016 campaign. 
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				In its thousand page report released just now, ENDORSED BY REPUBLICANS, the Senate intelligence committee offers a raft of damning evidence of the Trump campaign’s eager acceptance of help from a foreign power during the 2016 campaign. 
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 A few bullet points from the UK's Daily Mail on the report:
 
But the report does not conclude there was collusion between Trump's campaign and Russia
 
Instead Republicans and Democrats offered their own conclusions with Trump's party saying there was no collusion and Democrats arguing there was
 
Also takes aim at the FBI for using the Steele dossier without adequate vetting
 
Report also delves into reports of a 'kompromat' tape of Trump and says there is no evidence Russian intel had one
 
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		 I'm sure this is no big deal but multi-year Senate Intel report has found that Trump's campaign manager was in constant touch with Russian intel officer, and that Roger Stone learned in advance about WikiLeaks dumps at "tasking" of Trump campaign. 
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				I'm sure this is no big deal but multi-year Senate Intel report has found that Trump's campaign manager was in constant touch with Russian intel officer, and that Roger Stone learned in advance about WikiLeaks dumps at "tasking" of Trump campaign. 
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 The bipartisan 966-page Senate report goes where Mueller feared to tread and unearths a gold mine of compelling evidence that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia’s government to win the American presidency illegally. 
 
And they’re still at it.
 
Trump told Mueller in written answers that he recalled no conversations with Stone about WikiLeaks.
 
SSCI: "The Committee assesses that Trump did, in fact, speak with Stone about WikiLeaks and with members of his Campaign about Stone’s access to WikiLeaks on multiple occasions."
 
We have the right to expect far more of a president than merely that he not be provably a criminal.
 
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				The bipartisan 966-page Senate report goes where Mueller feared to tread and unearths a gold mine of compelling evidence that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia’s government to win the American presidency illegally.  
 
And they’re still at it. 
 
Ho hum.  More "compelling" evidence. 
 
Trump told Mueller in written answers that he recalled no conversations with Stone about WikiLeaks. 
 
Hillary established the validity of not recalling. 
 
SSCI: "The Committee assesses that Trump did, in fact, speak with Stone about WikiLeaks and with members of his Campaign about Stone’s access to WikiLeaks on multiple occasions." 
 
But Trump didn't recall.  It's OK not to recall. 
 
We have the right to expect far more of a president than merely that he not be provably a criminal. 
 
Is that in Article 2? 
 
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 I don't recall the "right to expect."  No doubt that's part of the vast residuum of rights inherent in the Constitution that the Progressives have pretty much ensured that Judges could interpret out of existence.
 
Good luck with your right to expect.
 
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		 Well let’s look at the chronology, he encouraged Russian interference in our election before he won, so boo hoo, maybe had he played it fair and square life would be different, ah but then he is Trump so nothing would have changed. 
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				Well let’s look at the chronology, he encouraged Russian interference in our election before he won, so boo hoo, maybe had he played it fair and square life would be different, ah but then he is Trump so nothing would have changed. 
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				Nobody is fooled no matter how you spin it, a thousand more pages to show his campaign actively sought help from Russia, then he does it again via Ukraine, lately it’s the USPS and now he wants to meet with Putin ahead of the election, when his taxes are finally public it will all likely make sense even to you. 
			
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				Not my spin.  As the Daily Mail stated: "But the report does not conclude there was collusion between Trump's campaign and Russia" . . . in spite of your spin. 
			
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 He can’t win on his job rating, certainly not on handling this heath crisis (wait until fall not even close to over), when you trash the economy that ship sailed, I’m pretty sure it’s not on foreign relations, oh wait his empathy for American lives loss due to his incompetence opps that won’t play, man he can’t even say look at all the 2016 promises I made good on, what you have left is cheating with foreign help or his go to black and white card.  You and your little band of hard core Trumpets are who he plays to, it’s as predictable as your defense of his piss poor performance, VOTE for change or live with the sh*t show that will follow.  
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-18-2020, 07:21 PM
			
			
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		 Hey I heard a rumor that if elected a Trump is nominating the My Pillow Owner Lindell to head the CDC and the Covid task force. 
		
		
		
		
		
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