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“Donald J. Trump paid $750 in federal income taxes the year he won the presidency. In his first year in the White House, he paid another $750. 
 
He had paid no income taxes at all in 10 of the previous 15 years” 
 
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		 He is a con, a grifter and criminal, but the senate is all in and hopefully it bites them at the polls. 
		
		
		
		
		
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		 a cockwomble..... 
 
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		 You can read Trump's tax returns two ways: either Donald Trump is the greatest tax cheat in US history - or he is a financial desperado hopelessly in debt to God knows who & needs every dollar he scams from Secret Service golf car rentals just to pay the electricity bill 
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				You can read Trump's tax returns two ways: either Donald Trump is the greatest tax cheat in US history - or he is a financial desperado hopelessly in debt to God knows who & needs every dollar he scams from Secret Service golf car rentals just to pay the electricity bill 
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 which of his tax returns have you read?  i remember when half-beast rachael maddow said she had the goods on him with his tax returns.  as i recall, she made an idiot of herself.  
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			09-27-2020, 08:26 PM
			
			
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				which of his tax returns have you read?  i remember when half-beast rachael maddow said she had the goods on him with his tax returns.  as i recall, she made an idiot of herself.   
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		 I think it’s a little of both Pete.  Don’s up chits creek with a turd for a paddle. 
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			09-27-2020, 07:54 PM
			
			
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		 Don’t worry it’s all coming apart  
BREAKING: Former Trump campaign manager, Brad Parscale, armed, barricades self in Fort Lauderdale home, police called 
Remember, Everything Trump touches dies 
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			09-28-2020, 04:37 AM
			
			
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				Don’t worry it’s all coming apart  
BREAKING: Former Trump campaign manager, Brad Parscale, armed, barricades self in Fort Lauderdale home, police called 
Remember, Everything Trump touches dies 
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 I thought this was a joke at first. Looks like they had to take him to the hospital on suicide watch. Wow.
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		 A little RBG effect, It says right in the prayerbook that Yom Kippur is the day that God smites deceivers, wrongdoers, and criminals. 
Sometimes he hits a trifecta! 
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		 Trumplicans are so quiet about his tax returns you can hear a poll drop. 
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			09-28-2020, 06:09 AM
			
			
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				Trumplicans are so quiet about his tax returns you can hear a poll drop. 
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 i’m not being quiet.  you mentioned reading his tax returns.  which have you read?  you’re dodging for some 
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			09-28-2020, 06:24 AM
			
			
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				i’m not being quiet.  you mentioned reading his tax returns.  which have you read?  you’re dodging for some 
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			09-28-2020, 06:33 AM
			
			
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				He’s not the one dodging... 
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 the hell he isn’t.  he said that reading trumps returns leads one to think he broke the law.  but he hasn’t read a return, so he has zero basis to say that.
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				the hell he isn’t.  he said that reading trumps returns leads one to think he broke the law.  but he hasn’t read a return, so he has zero basis to say that. 
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 Didn't take jim long to  saying that he was only playing by the rules of the game  
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-28-2020, 06:36 AM
			
			
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				He’s not the one dodging... 
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 if we can show he cheated on taxes, he should 
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office.  i don’t know how else to say it, and i can’t believe you’d call that dodging.
 
but forgive me if i’m not willing to take the word of the NYT.  because again, i’m old enough to remember when rachael maddow said she had the smoking gun of tax returns, and it showed that he paid millions.
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			09-28-2020, 09:02 AM
			
			
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 What's there to say?  It's between him and the IRS.  
		
		
		
		
		
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 Said a true Trumpet, it also might have a lot to do with criminal activity and I think the majority of tax paying Americans might have an interest as it reflects on his credibility and honesty (hard to even type that as it is foreign to DJT).  Follow the money might also might explain his protection of Putin and don’t break out the blue I already know hoe you stand on probably everything.  Deny and deflect will be Trumps response to this.
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				Said a true Trumpet, it also might have a lot to do with criminal activity and I think the majority of tax paying Americans might have an interest as it reflects on his credibility and honesty (hard to even type that as it is foreign to DJT).  Follow the money might also might explain his protection of Putin and don’t break out the blue I already know hoe you stand on probably everything.  Deny and deflect will be Trumps response to this. 
			
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 "Might have" is not a notion that persuades me of anything.  If the IRS finds errors or fraud in Trump's returns, that would be more persuasive than any "might have."  What is not a "might have" is Trump's four years in office.  I prefer his presidency to any Clinton or Obama, or thoroughly Progressive administration.  I understand you disagree with me.  I don't care.  And I'm not interested in any "might haves" re Trump's taxes, nor in how much he paid.  
		
		
		
		
		
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 or it might mean that's all he owed because he had a loss to offset his income.
 
If he cheated, that's one thing.  If he paid what the law said he owed, big whoop.  
		
		
		
		
		
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				or it might mean that's all he owed because he had a loss to offset his income. 
 
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				or it might mean that's all he owed because he had a loss to offset his income. 
 
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 Big whoop really?  So Trump personally is on the hook soon for what many say is closer to over a billion and his businesses are tanking just like everyone else in that sector, he is a national security risk!  Foreign governments are watching this reporting and making notes, DJT is now a target and mark.  He would be the PERFECT asset for one of our long time enemies.
 
The threat to our security doesn’t go away if he isn’t elected, in fact it probably grows short term as now he would be willing to sell what he knows to the highest bidder, if you don’t think this is serious your head is either stuck in the sand or up your own arse.  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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 Good try, I think the long con is about over. I can see the allure for Donald Trump of living in a rent free house. But I’m not sure what his landlords think of the arrangement. 
 
We will know soon enough, since it's 35 days till voters get to decide if they want the federal government to look like a Trump business that is struggling for direction under the impulses of an unhinged CEO, deeply in debt, high manager turnover rate, low morale, countless lawsuits over questionable practices, and sinking brand reputation.
 
You just keep believing and while you are at it you can explain how Trump can repay $1.1B in debt while he's in the exact sectors of the economy that are getting creamed by the pandemic: real estate, travel, leisure. He's getting squeezed on his ability to make $, he's gorged on debt...He has never sold anything in his life even when it was hemorrhaging cash.
 
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		 As we think through the implications of Trump’s tax returns, remember: 
 
Trump got the US Department of Justice to tell the Supreme Court that his financial records wouldn’t be of much interest to a congressional committee investigating Trump’s susceptibility to foreign influence. 
But he had 73M in foreign income, his first two years in office. 
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		Funny Fox is already going to bat for him and running interference 
'The Next Revolution'  Steve Hilton's  called it an Attempted take down by elites or something like that ..
 
seen other saying what about him not getting paid LOL
 
its very easy all Trump has to do is provide his tax returns  
 
And in the SPY world and espionage  owing lots of Money is what they look for to turn an Assets
 
And to get a security clearance in the Government or Military or as a contractor ..  if your in debt you an't getting one  and to be in debt in the billions and have one OMG  
 
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Pretty sure plenty of people who carry clearances carry debt, you know, mortgages, car payments, a couple of credit cards.
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				you may want fact check this one. 
 
Pretty sure plenty of people who carry clearances carry debt, you know, mortgages, car payments, a couple of credit cards. 
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 I think he means excessive debt. 
 
Like say you owe hundreds of millions of dollars to, say, I don’t know, Russian oligarchs maybe, it would make you a prime target for extortion. But that’s just one example, there could be others.
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				I think he means excessive debt.  
			
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 Then he needs to say that, doesn't he   
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			09-28-2020, 07:56 AM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  The Dad Fisherman
					 
				 
				you may want fact check this one. 
 
Pretty sure plenty of people who carry clearances carry debt, you know, mortgages, car payments, a couple of credit cards. 
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Your correct but were not talking  normal debt mortgages, car payments, a couple of credit cards.  Are we but you knew that 
 
But Trump s  
$421 million in loans he is personally responsible for, loans which are coming due within the next four years. 
 
Let this sink in  
a single adult would only need to make $17,900” to pay $750 in federal tax
 
In 2016, Trump paid $129,250 more to Stormy Daniels than to the USA government.;
 
This sums up his supporters  well
 
No matter what Trump does, no matter what journalists go on revealing, he has, for the “base,” delivered on his promise to upend “the system” and inflame the élites. Some supporters believe that he has lowered their taxes (he hasn’t), defanged North Korea (he hasn’t), and ironed out the Israeli-Palestinian conflict (he hasn’t). For the Republican leadership, Trump remains tolerable because he appoints right-wing judges and cossets corporate interests.
   
		
		
		
		
		
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