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		Anyone ever try and put a small bend in a lip from one of the vendors? Kind of like on the Beachmaster Cowboys where the edges have a small bend up to help them dig a little better. 
 
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			01-26-2009, 09:50 AM
			
			
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		 mark where you want to bend it with a pencil and put it in a vice.  Seemed to work okay for me, probably not the most accurate way to do so. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-26-2009, 10:06 AM
			
			
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		 I just use my needls nose pliars...  works fine. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-26-2009, 01:02 PM
			
			
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		 I clamp between the tailstock and bed on the lathe, and bend up or down. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-26-2009, 02:06 PM
			
			
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		 yup, mark it and then use a vise. I like to use aluminum angle iron in the vise to get a nice crisp bend. Here are a  few shots of another post I did on bending lips but you can use the same set up for the turned up lips. 
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-26-2009, 05:03 PM
			
			
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		If you want to save some $$ . We have the lips available unbent also The hole is punched  for the wire.  Bend them in any variety of ways to make up your own style 
http://www.capecodtackle.com/Merchan...at+Unbent+Lips 
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-26-2009, 05:21 PM
			
			
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		 Mike thats real nice even though i know what the lips are would be nice to have pics of them when you are ordering. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-27-2009, 07:39 AM
			
			
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		Prof....I like your angle iron Jaw jig for that vise. I need one of those. 
 
Also, it looks like you got plenty of on-going  projects in the works on your bench.   
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-27-2009, 10:02 AM
			
			
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				Prof....I like your angle iron Jaw jig for that vise. I need one of those. 
 
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 you have no idea. ask Eddy, Tag., how much uncompleted stuff i have   .  
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-27-2009, 10:27 AM
			
			
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		 Here are a few conrad lips I cooked at 1000 degrees for 1 hour and cooled slowly.  They will be put on skin plugs I am doing. I like the no shine look for nite time. 
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-27-2009, 11:03 AM
			
			
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		 I like that Vice/Angle Iron jig idea...may give that a go. 
 
PM those lips are exactly what I'm trying to end up with....the slight bend on the lip portion. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-27-2009, 11:10 AM
			
			
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		Next you will be telling me your smelting your own lips from ore you dug up in your back yard!  .... you know I use to date pretty hot babe in college who is now a metallurgist...we use to talk heat treating and annealing stuff all the time...  shows you how exciting dating engineers are)  You might like her.    If I recall, I think she was into Frank Zappa too.  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			01-27-2009, 11:36 AM
			
			
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		 Ground is way to hard for mining in my yard. got her #. I am due for a mid life crisis fling.  
 
 Kev just lay out the spots and line up 2 spots in vise along the edge and bend by hand. I did those by hand last nite in 10 min. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-27-2009, 12:12 PM
			
			
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		 why did you anneal them PM?   so you cold bend them easily? 
		
		
		
		
		
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				Here are a few conrad lips I cooked at 1000 degrees for 1 hour and cooled slowly.  They will be put on skin plugs I am doing. I like the no shine look for nite time. 
			
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 looks like your trying to match the color of the eel skins inside out.
 
we use to have some stuff to parkerize[spelling?] metal..it wa a blue liquid that you heated to 150* degrees and you'd just let the metal soak in it for an hour..it would come out dark charcoal grey and never come off....the army would use it kill the shine on their equipment.  
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-27-2009, 12:41 PM
			
			
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		 I made a jig from 1/4" aluminum, it's  3/16" smaller all the way around  than the lip,the edges are beveled to the angle I desire for the lip "curl" I  center the jig on the lip and clamp it in the vise ( soft jaws) I then tap the edges to form it with a small lead  hammer,I'll post a picture of it tonight if anyone is interested. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-27-2009, 01:38 PM
			
			
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		 I'm wondering why the Professor cooked his lips too, I don't think 1000* would anneal it, would it? (...I wonder where my material science textbook went...) 
 
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				Mike thats real nice even though i know what the lips are would be nice to have pics of them when you are ordering. 
			
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 I have been doing a complete rebuild of the Lure Building section. I will get to the unbent lip pictures soon. I am booked out for the next few days cooking for my game dinner . right now my a** is frozen being in the water all morning getting shelfish for it.  
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-27-2009, 02:52 PM
			
			
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				why did you anneal them PM?   so you cold bend them easily? 
			
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 Just going for the color not for annealing . They are already bent before the heat. Got the idea when we hardened some parts for a job and thought how a dark lip would be advantageous to a dark colored nite time plug. Just something different.  
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-27-2009, 03:49 PM
			
			
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		 Paul when i heat treat with the oxy/acet torch i put it in a bucket of old motor oil and the parts come out black. 
		
		
		
		
		
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		 yes they do lu. I have done that when hardening some small parts with oil hardening tool steel. Smells lovely too. I like the blue a little more than the black but it would work also. I just stick them all in the small oven we have for doing some 17-4 material and set em and forget em. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-27-2009, 04:44 PM
			
			
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		 I like the blue better myself looking at your pics. 
		
		
		
		
		
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		 I just checked my oven in the kitchen, and it doesn't go to 1000 degrees. 
		
		
		
		
		
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		 Mine does... at least that's how dinner tasted. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-27-2009, 09:16 PM
			
			
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		 I've done black lips for my black swimmers . I like the heated coloring. At least the color stays put. I'm going to torch a few and give them an oil bath. 
		
		
		
		
		
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		mine goes to 2700   
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				you have no idea. ask Eddy, Tag., how much uncompleted stuff i have   .  
			
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