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buckman · 02-25-2009, 04:38 PM

Didn't I just hear Obama last night say no ear marks... How much more can we spend?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090225/...gress_spending

justplugit · 02-25-2009, 05:15 PM

Completely out of control.

Slipknot · 02-25-2009, 06:03 PM

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Completely out of control.

yep, beyond counterfeiting

striperman36 · 02-25-2009, 06:39 PM

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yep, beyond counterfeiting

Oh wait, they OWN the printing press, how can that be counterfeiting

spence · 02-25-2009, 06:53 PM

They probably learned from watching the Bush Administration and GOP controlled Congress.

Bush increased Government spending more than any President in the past 30 years. Twice as fast as his father and even much, much faster than Clinton in his second term when the Clinton Administration was on a bender.

I'm almost thinking this could be a deke considering the words from the Obama spokesperson. It would be brilliant to have the House pass a huge bill just so P Obama could use the Veto

-spence

buckman · 02-25-2009, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by spence

They probably learned from watching the Bush Administration and GOP controlled Congress.

Bush increased Government spending more than any President in the past 30 years. Twice as fast as his father and even much, much faster than Clinton in his second term when the Clinton Administration was on a bender.

I'm almost thinking this could be a deke considering the words from the Obama spokesperson. It would be brilliant to have the House pass a huge bill just so P Obama could use the Veto

-spence

Man Spence, you just don't quit. No one has spent at this rate, ever.

justplugit · 02-25-2009, 09:50 PM

Whoa, a trillion with interest on spending/bailout,
$410 billion on domestic billl and $640 billion down payment on health care bill.

Thats 2 trillion right there and that's just the beginning.

Might as well be counterfeit as that amount of printed money won't be worth the paper it's printed on.

buckman · 02-26-2009, 09:07 AM

This is really getting crazy. I'm at a loss as to what they are doing. Obama's budget has not even been brought into the mix yet.

I really had hoped to be wrong about what would happen if the left had unlimited power. This is happening way to quick and is much worse then I predicted.

Is there any of the Obama defenders on here that can explain the upside to what is going on here. ( just to make it challenging for you, you cant's mention Bush ) Any regrets yet?

Nebe · 02-26-2009, 09:14 AM

job creation

RIJIMMY · 02-26-2009, 10:23 AM

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This is really getting crazy.
I really had hoped to be wrong about what would happen if the left had unlimited power. This is happening way to quick and is much worse then I predicted.

I agree, this worse than I ever anticipated.

spence · 02-26-2009, 11:04 AM

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I really had hoped to be wrong about what would happen if the left had unlimited power. This is happening way to quick and is much worse then I predicted.

The omnibus bill you started this thread about was under the Bush 2009 budget and from what I've read a little less than 1/2 of the earmarks were put in by Republicans.

Bush increased the size of the Federal Government more than any other Administration since I've been alive. Obama appears to be continuing this trend. Granted, the recession will greatly exacerbate spending over the next few years.

While there were some against Bush's spending, a good number of Republicans who are claiming to magically have become fiscally responsible in the past two months were eager cheerleaders for Bush's spending bender which they did their best to hide from the American people.

The out of control spending looks to by a bi-partisan issue. At least Obama is willing to state the true cost.

-spence

buckman · 02-26-2009, 11:07 AM

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The omnibus bill you started this thread about was under the Bush 2009 budget and from what I've read a little less than 1/2 of the earmarks were put in by Republicans.

The out of control spending looks to by a bi-partisan issue.

-spence

You are right, Half are from Republicans. I'm just as pissed at them. You mentioned Bush......your out.

buckman · 02-26-2009, 11:08 AM

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job creation

But they can't all be at the Treasury printing department.

justplugit · 02-26-2009, 01:18 PM

2010 budget plan---3.55 Trillion

Aside from the proposed tax increases on wage earners over $208,000 and adding fines to companies that pollute, how could this possibly be paid for.

We are worried about our Grandchildren and polution but not about having them on the bread line for what we are spending now.

Meantime, companies that are polluting will have to lay off or not hire to pay for fines and reconstruct to Govt. specs.

Stimulus spending???????????? Government gone wild.

likwid · 02-26-2009, 01:51 PM

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adding fines to companies that pollute

ITS ABOUT GODDAMN TIME!

JohnnyD · 02-26-2009, 02:23 PM

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ITS ABOUT GODDAMN TIME!

Agreed. I'm also a huge fan of the elimination of tax-deferment for companies that ship jobs overseas. This policy has thus far screwed the US two-fold: 1) Taxes are only paid when the money is brought back into the US, thus money used outside the US is never taxed, and 2) the lost jobs of US citizens.

buckman · 02-26-2009, 02:34 PM

"adding fines to companies that pollute"

Ya, that's new....I guess we will all hope for more pollution.

justplugit · 02-26-2009, 03:11 PM

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ITS ABOUT GODDAMN TIME!

Ya, now our Grandchildren can wait on the bread line breathing cleaner air.