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		|  11-30-2022, 10:06 AM | #1 |  
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				seditious conspiracy Conviction
			 
 So still a peaceful protest
 persecution of ordinary citizens engaged in legitimate political discourse”.
 
 Or as I heard here their just a few thugs
 
 What happened to the FBI let them in or it was Antifa
 
 DeSantis slammed Democrats and the media for making so much hay of the event.
 
 "This is their Christmas, January 6th," he said. "They are going to take this and milk this for anything they could to try to be able to smear anyone who ever supported Donald Trump."
 I think it's going to be nauseating, quite frankly."
 
 And he wants to be POTUS. Lol
 
 We're ashamed of nothing," said GOP Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida during an appearance with Georgia Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene on a podcast hosted by former Trump strategist Steve Bannon, who has been indicted for defying a subpoena from the House committee investigating the insurrection. "We're proud of the work that we did on Jan. 6 to make legitimate arguments about election integrity."
 
 Greene slammed Republican Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, another potential 2024 contender, for having characterized the anniversary as an event marking "a violent terrorist attack on the Capitol"
 
 She accused Cruz of disrespecting "MAGA patriots" and "people that rioted at the Capitol and did breach the Capitol."
 
 So in the revisionist history of the GOP. It was
 
 Instead of an attempt to overturn the election by radicalized Donald Trump supporters, it was a choreographed attack staged by antifa provocateurs. Rather than an armed insurrection, it was a good-natured protest spoiled by a few troublemakers.
 
 And still with these convictions it’s but but  Hunter , let’s investigate origins of Covid. Looting . Afghan withdrawal.
 
 And let’s not forget the defense of marriage act. Passed.
 And these republicans voted against it all geez and red states .  Reps
 
 These are the Republicans who voted against the bill:
 
 John Barrasso, Wyoming
 Marsha Blackburn, Tennessee
 John Boozman, Arkansas
 Mike Braun, Indiana
 Bill Cassidy, Louisiana
 John Cornyn, Texas
 Tom Cotton, Arkansas
 Kevin Cramer, North Dakota
 Mike Crapo, Idaho
 Ted Cruz, Texas
 Steve Daines, Montana
 Deb Fischer, Nebraska
 Lindsey Graham, South Carolina
 Chuck Grassley, Iowa
 Bill Hagerty, Tennessee
 Josh Hawley, Missouri
 John Hoeven, North Dakota
 Cindy Hyde-Smith, Mississippi
 Jim Inhofe, Oklahoma
 Ron Johnson, Wisconsin
 John Kennedy, Louisiana
 James Lankford, Oklahoma
 Mike Lee, Utah
 Roger Marshall, Kansas
 Mitch McConnell, Kentucky
 Jerry Moran, Kansas
 Rand Paul, Kentucky
 Jim Risch, Idaho
 Mike Rounds, South Dakota
 Marco Rubio, Florida
 Rick Scott, Florida
 Tim Scott, South Carolina
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		|  11-30-2022, 10:23 AM | #2 |  
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		|  11-30-2022, 11:26 AM | #3 |  
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				 | wayne, there’s video of capital police in some places, letting them right in.  No one is making that up. |  
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					Originally Posted by Jim in CT  wayne, there’s video of capital police in some places, letting them right in.  No one is making that up. |  Once again you're lying or at best stretching the truth to suit your narrative, but anything for the cause.
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/05/vi...enter-capitol/ 
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					Originally Posted by Pete F.   |  when i fabricate a quote, and say that abe lincoln was a liberal and that robert e lee was conservative, then let’s talk about what a must i am. |  
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					Originally Posted by Jim in CT  wayne, there’s video of capital police in some places, letting them right in.  No one is making that up. |  Take dads advice seek help
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					Originally Posted by Jim in CT  when i fabricate a quote, and say that abe lincoln was a liberal and that robert e lee was conservative, then let’s talk about what a must i am. |  Poor victim, 
 
Republicans are fixated on the idea that their party is connected to the party of President Lincoln, whose party also bore the name Republican. During this election season, they keep evoking the hallowed connection again saying “the Republican Party is the party of Lincoln.” Republicans want to imagine that there is a grand tradition between the Republican Party of the Reagan era and Abraham Lincoln’s federal interventionist party of 1861.
 
The Republican Party has spent decades shouting, among other hollow slogans, that big government is bad and small government is good. They contend that small government is morally virtuous and good for liberty and freedom—epithets from Barry Goldwater’s 1960 Conscience of a Conservative, Movement Conservative’s manifesto. And, one must ask: whose freedom? But, if Republicans understood that Lincoln’s party is the origin of the modern, interventionist, administrative state, they would condemn it as socialist.
 
Big government began with President Lincoln’s Republican Party, which in fundamental ways is the progenitor of the modern Democratic Party of President Franklin D. Roosevelt. Lincoln’s party was not one of small, non-intrusive government, minimal taxation, traditional social mores, and white supremacy. It was the party of strong federal intervention and moral directive against the institution of slavery and Southern secession, the party of federally funded higher education, federally funded national transportation, and social welfare. The radical Republicans of Lincoln’s Party with their reform zeal and moral interventionist vision would be to the left of Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. 
Lincoln’s administration gave us big government: first income tax, first national banking system, big bureaus like the Department of Agriculture, Bureau of Pensions, an explosion of government contracting for the war, Pacific Railroad Act for federally funded intercontinental railroad, the Morrill Act for federally funded higher education (the land grant universities that changed America). 
Lincoln’s administration and its legacy brought welfare to a persecuted and disadvantaged minority. It also issued the Emancipation Proclamation, Thirteenth Amendment abolishing slavery, Fourteenth Amendment guaranteeing constitutional rights for every citizen, Fifteenth Amendment guaranteeing suffrage, Freedman’s Bureau to aid newly freed African Americans. 
interventionist, administrative state, they would condemn it as socialist.
 
Big government began with President Lincoln’s Republican Party, which in fundamental ways is the progenitor of the modern Democratic Party of President Franklin D. Roosevelt. Lincoln’s party was not one of small, non-intrusive government, minimal taxation, traditional social mores, and white supremacy. It was the party of strong federal intervention and moral directive against the institution of slavery and Southern secession, the party of federally funded higher education, federally funded national transportation, and social welfare. The radical Republicans of Lincoln’s Party with their reform zeal and moral interventionist vision would be to the left of Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren.
  
Lincoln’s administration gave us big government: first income tax, first national banking system, big bureaus like the Department of Agriculture, Bureau of Pensions, an explosion of government contracting for the war, Pacific Railroad Act for federally funded intercontinental railroad, the Morrill Act for federally funded higher education (the land grant universities that changed America).
 
Polina Barskova, Masha Gessen, & Catherine Ciepiela at Greenlight Bookstore 
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Lincoln’s administration and its legacy brought welfare to a persecuted and disadvantaged minority. It also issued the Emancipation Proclamation, Thirteenth Amendment abolishing slavery, Fourteenth Amendment guaranteeing constitutional rights for every citizen, Fifteenth Amendment guaranteeing suffrage, Freedman’s Bureau to aid newly freed African Americans.
 
President Trump’s failure to understand the history of the federal government’s role in times of crisis has cost the nation greatly.
  
Today’s Republicans, with their passion for states’ rights, their protection of the white supremacist segments of American society, their aversion to ethical federal pro action, have more ideological connections with the slaveholding southern Democrats of the 1860s than they do with Lincoln’s party.
 
President Franklin Roosevelt continued the Lincoln tradition because he understood that a well-organized federal bureaucracy was essential to rescuing the nation from an extraordinary crisis in 1932. Unregulated and corrupt capitalism had run the economic and financial infrastructure into the ground. FDR’s New Deal brought the power of federal leadership and the administrative state to a new place. His financial regulations and public work projects stabilized the economy and provided jobs and relief for millions.
 
The Works Progress Administration, Social Security, and the Fair Labor Standards Act were just some of the innovative and nation-saving programs FDR created. The New Deal put people back to work, rescued capitalism, and restored faith in the American Way.
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		|  11-30-2022, 05:24 PM | #9 |  
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					Originally Posted by wdmso  Nothing to add. ShockingPosted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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I asked you twice, in another thread, a question pertaining to student loan forgiveness and separation of church and state, you ignored it. 
 
So just continue ranting like a lunatic and I’ll continue to add nothing. That seems to be the balance here.
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		|  12-01-2022, 08:57 AM | #10 |  
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					Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman  Why should I, when I do try to add something to the conversation, you ignore it.
 I asked you twice, in another thread, a question pertaining to student loan forgiveness and separation of church and state, you ignored it.
 
 So just continue ranting like a lunatic and I’ll continue to add nothing. That seems to be the balance here.
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		|  12-01-2022, 10:19 AM | #11 |  
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					Originally Posted by wdmso  Someone needs a tissue
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					Originally Posted by wdmso  Nothing to add. ShockingPosted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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Pot/Kettle
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					Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman  Pot/KettlePosted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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					Originally Posted by Jim in CT  it's OK when he does it. |  You 2 have a lot say about school choice but little about Seditious conspiracy 
 
Its comical
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