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Old 02-11-2023, 08:00 PM   #203
detbuch
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Originally Posted by wdmso View Post
Silly rabbit the founders were progressives

Certainly not capital "P" Progressives. Political Progressivism is anti US Constitution as written by the Founders.

and I am sure if woke was a thing back then. the English king and colonial loyalists would be referring to them as woke Rebels

If "woke" as it is culturally characterized today was a thing back then, the Founders would join the English King and Colonial Loyalists in branding them as insane and a threat to humanity.

You really need to up your game in the history of the world and it’s nations and governments .

And Get back to us when you find one that hasn’t changed since it’s creation
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What hasn't changed is human nature. Certainly not since 1776. And discernably not since recorded history.

And human nature is complex. It is often its own enemy. We have internal conflicts between a desire to be free, and a desire to be taken care of. We have a desire to rule as well as a desire to be ruled. We have a desire to be independent and a desire to be part of a protective group.

The Founders crafted a constitutional system of government that would provide the maximum opportunity for individual human beings to fulfill their inherent natural tendencies and desires without suppressing those of others.

That requires a balanced cooperation between the complex blends and combinations of natural humanity in the country's diverse population of individuals. When that balance tips in favor of those who wish to rule, for whatever reason, then the opportunity for individuals to fulfill their personal tendencies and desires will shrink.

And when the tendency to be ruled or to be taken care of becomes greater in a majority of the people than their desires to be free and independent, then they will be easier, even eager, to be ruled. And so those who still have balanced or strong desires to be self-reliant will become odd, out of touch, a danger to society. And the Constitution will be an obstacle to overcome.
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