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Question back beach. What speed were you using. I've tested a load and have found that speed sure makes a diff especialy with surface swimmers like Jr's,Dannys, 40s and surfsters. Add the lip and all with a short rod compared to a long rod and the plug swims different again .So how precise are we getting with our testing considering all the conditions we fish. Short of the plug going belly up retreive will make a load of diff in how deep a plug runs. Ron
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