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					Originally Posted by  Ryan560
					 
				 
				Ok cool thanks, my friend wanted me to duplicate some for him he was able to borrow a giant jointed that measures 10 1/2" I wasn't sure if it used the same 1/4" diameter tailweights as the one mentioned in this thread. I remeber reading in one of Frank's books he mentions a 12 or 13" giant jointed which had me confused. 
I spun up one today out of awc, still want to try turning one out of wrc I think the white cedar will be a little overweight. The original he has weighs 3.48oz unrigged. I'll be lobbing these from a breachway using an allstar 1208 which should be able to handle the weight.   
			
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 What's mis understood about the size of the giant Pikie is CCBCO measured the plug from lip to tail hook which added to the demension..
I've made quie a few  of these.. and fish a fair amount of them as well... the mid plug body weight needs to be reduced... the heavy slug was put there to combat the back from humping up... I use 5/0 VMC on mine and reduce the weight...  a single siwash on the tail keeps the action real... the treble tends to deaden the action..