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Old 03-29-2012, 04:01 AM   #74
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Originally Posted by detbuch View Post
If all commerce can be "regulated" by the Federal Gvt., which this mandate would give it the power to do, I ask again, in this thread, for the fourth time, are States and the Constitution necessary? Are they not obstacles to efficient centralized government? Would it not be better to just abolish them?
clearly, based upon statements by people here, the answer is either.."no", the States and the Constution are not necessary in their minds/views ....or....."maybe", but they are so woefully uninformed on States Rights and the Constitution that these considerations never enter into any of their arguments

it's depressing........fortunately, it's been shown the last few days that you can try to argue around and around the Constitution and logic and common sense, but it's tough to argue through it...


Madison- Federalist #45
"The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government, are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected. The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State."


JUSTICE KENNEDY: "And here the government is saying that the Federal Government has a duty to tell the individual citizen that it must act, and that is different from what we have in previous cases and that changes the relationship of the Federal Government to the individual in the very fundamental way."


interesting, this would appear to represent, and I think what is really the essence of the "Fundamental Change" that we were promised by this President, which may/should be a change that he has no authority to promise

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