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Originally Posted by spence
Well, we should probably fact check your assertion.
First off, Obama never even said it.
The number is actually a "projection" from report by Whitehouse economic advisors in early 2009. It was based on current (at the time) CBO economic data and carried a large margin of error.
So your accusation that Obama promised the Stimulus would keep unemployment at 8% is factually not correct. The Republicans who have been barking this claim are either misinformed or lying.
Are you just misinformed or lying?
Again, you don't have your facts in order.
Obama actually stated the Surge had been a military success "beyond our wildest dreams".
Good news...My analysis is that you're not lying. I think you're just misinformed.
-spence
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"Obama actually stated the Surge had been a military success "beyond our wildest dreams".
He said that after bashing the surge forever. Obama only admitted the surge was a success when he knew that there was no way he could claim otherwise. He criticized the surge for YEARS. But why would you let that fact get in your way?
HJere's what he said in 2007..."We cannot impose a military solution on what has effectively become a civil war. And until we acknowledge that reality, uh, we can send 15,000 more troops; 20,000 more troops; 30,000 more troops. Uh, I don't know any, uh, expert on the region or any military officer that I've spoken to, uh, privately that believes that that is gonna make a substantial difference on the situation on the ground"
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/20...rge_won_t_work
Spence, the surge may have exceeded Obama's expectations, but it didn't exceed Bush's or McCain's expectations...the surge did EXACTLY what knowledgable fiolks said it would do.
I agree with you, Obama's expectations were way off. That's the problem. When you spend your entire career playing the race card and voting "present", you don't develop good instincts for these things, I guess. Obama was wrong about what the impact of the surge would be, and he was wrong about what the impact of the stimulus would be. Those are 2 serious issues (macroeconomics and military strategy) to be clueless about, if you want to be president.
You are correct, I can't see that Obama said unemployment would stay below 8%, but hus econoimic advisors sure said it.
"a Jan. 9, 2009, report called "The Job Impact of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan" from Christina Romer, chairwoman of the president's Council of Economic Advisers, and Jared Bernstein, the vice president's top economic adviser.
Their report projected that the stimulus plan proposed by Obama would create between three and four million jobs by the end of 2010. The report also includes a graphic predicting unemployment rates with and without the stimulus. Without the stimulus (the baseline), unemployment was projected to hit about 8.5 percent in 2009 and then continue rising to a peak of about 9 percent in 2010. With the stimulus, they predicted the unemployment rate would peak at just under 8 percent in 2009."
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ma-promised-s/
Is it fair to hold Obama accountable for the actions of the economic advisors he appoints? I see no reason why not.