[Mike P]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

Bingo again.
Manny, love him or hate him was a great hitter before the juice, same goes for Barry Bonds & A Rod.
Big Papi, Sosa, McGwire, products of the juice.
I think I'm like a lot of other Sox fans who are willing to throw Ortiz to the curb because of the juice, making him a fraud !

I think McGwire would have been a 30-35 HR a year guy even without the juice. Pudge Rodriguez would have still been the best defensive catcher of my lifetime, too.