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					Originally Posted by  wdmso
					 
				 
				Again more grandstanding on abortion 
			
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 It's not abortion.  The babies are born alive.
Wayne, I'll try again here to have an actual conversation.
If a baby is born alive, it's outside the womb, the umbilical cord is cut, it's breathing on its own...is that a person at that point?
If not, when is it a person?  When does the mother no longer have the right to choose to end the life?