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Originally Posted by Got Stripers

I’m not disagreeing with those points, far to many companies have taken their business elsewhere, my point is this started elsewhere and models from others predicted what would happen in every country this came to and this administration did not gear up quickly or make hard decisions and put out the correct messaging to slow this spread or get the medical supplies manufactured early enough. It doesn’t just fall on Trumps head, but his leadership and downplaying of this has really been terrible. Everyone on this board is entitled to their opinion on how this has been handled, you don’t have to like mine view, feel free to disagree in a respectful and civil way if your capable wink wink.

I know that I'm kinda, a little bit, "different," but I don't think I'm an apple that fell too far from the human tree. Essentially, basically, I react and think like most regular, normal, people. But I never got this supposed "message" from Trump's rhetoric that everything was absolutely fine, that we had nothing to worry about. He seemed to be trying to dampen over reaction rather than just reassuring us, and not that we should disregard the warnings we were constantly getting from media, from experts including those on his team, from modelers, from Democrats and anti-Trumpers. There was plenty of "disaster" messaging, and we were all hearing it. We were not uninformed. But many also have a "me and mine above all else" attitude, and have no compunction about emptying store shelves to selfishly horde for themselves--and those who heard only the "disaster" message" did just that. The message needed some moderation in order to avoid panic.


As far as mixed messages, the Dems, as has been constantly reiterated here, first accused Trump of over-reacting, then under-reacting.

Possibly, probably, I'm used to how Trump speaks, so I don't literally take every word. I also know that his opponents, including media, will deliberately shade his messaging or totally distort it to mean various degrees of unacceptable--from stupid to destructive, anti-American. I strongly suspect that those who don't like him, really do like these distortions whether they actually believe them or not. They stand by them no matter how well they're debunked.

As far as gearing up too slowly, as I keep hearing from those who don't like him--I have said, from the time he became the nominee, that Trump surrounds himself with "experts" re whatever he wants to accomplish. He states what he wants to be done, then relies on them to do it. There was a whole system in place when he took office. It was, as federal bureaucracies are geared, in place to deal with pandemic emergencies and had the responsibility to be prepared, stocked, and ready to go when a crisis arose. It was not. Perhaps it wasn't possible to be ready for COVID-19.

So a team, a "system," had to be created to deal with it. Takes a bit of time to do that. The team seems to be doing a good job. I don't have the expertise to say they aren't. Some here think they do.

The whole world seems to be bungling as well as possible through this. I don't think we're the worst. Not nearly, if at all.

In the meantime, the real culprit seems to be getting a pass. The Chinese Communist Party is the direct villain here, not Trump, or the current Dems or Repubs, or other world leaders. If we have any fault, it is our noble but unrealistic attempt to bring Communist China into our family of trading partners, thinking the CCP would reform and become a capitalist free market form of government. And our government administrations were too happy (in order to finance their own power ambitions) to overtax and overregulate businesses and corporations to the point that it became economically better for them to far more cheaply produce in this new "partner." And we were so ignorantly proud to contribute to, even become unsustainably indebted to, this shining new experiment that would peaceably bring this most oppressive regime into a new world order of benevolent nations.

And we were so mesmerized by how well this experiment was working, how far and quickly China progressed into becoming, from a backward bastion of human oppression, a glittering economic power ready to assume the mantle of THE dominant power which would show us the way to more economically, equitably, stabilize the desired new world order with a Progressive, top down governmentally controlled system.

We were not to fear, but to admire and appreciate Communist China for showing us that our own inequitable capitalistic system was outmoded (and as well, quietly, was our government strangling Constitution).

So now, we are "woked" into this new world where, rather than producing our own essentials, masters of our own fate, we are not only indebted to, but depended on the CCP to coordinate the production of so much of our medical and military needs as well as much of the tech that glues our culture and society together.

The CCP is the criminal who didn't react quickly enough. It is the criminal that willingly let the virus spread worldwide and lie about it in order to protect itself from the wrath of its own people as well as that of the rest of humanity. It could have stopped the spread by doing what you want Trump to have done.

And, ironically, Trump is the only President since the start of our official commercial comity with communism to actually attempt to disentangle us from the CCP's tentacles.

But, for whatever reason (politics, hate, media driven perspective, disinformation) many of us prefer to bash Trump rather than the CCP. If there is any good that comes of this crisis, the best may be the beginning of the downfall of the CCP. The Chinese people (and the rest of the world) need one of those revolutions that brought down the Soviet Union.

An honest look would expose the inherent danger of putting the welfare of your country into the hands of the CCP. If enough of those countries that have bought into China's Belt and Road "help" suffer enough from the pandemic, they might abandon that self destructive foreign "aid." If the U.S. and the rest of the world wean from China's tits, the CCP will collapse, and the Chinese people might be able to rise to heights that would truly be admirable. They are an industrious people. Given actual freedom, who knows how high they can go.