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Old 09-25-2019, 10:55 PM   #206
detbuch
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Originally Posted by Pete F. View Post
1. The emoluments clause prohibits the President from receiving personal favors of value. “And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.” Feel free to look at a definition of emoluments, preferably from before 1800, we are originalists I suppose, though Trump’s violations of the emoluments clause extends further than that and is evident in the telecom released today.

The DOJ determined that what was asked for was not considered a thing of value. You're stretching here. Otherwise, an overbroad definition of "value" as relates to the emoluments clause would mean that no requests could be made.

2. You have bought into Trump’s narrative re Biden and his son. If Trump wants to claim that others profited, he should start by not doing the thing he denigrates with his family. 666 West Avenue and it’s refinancing would be a good start. Ivankas trademarks, Don Jr’s deal in Indonesia, etc.
The Biden and his son narrative does not require buying into. The connections are obvious. What you mention about Trump and his family are not about foreign influencing of our elections.
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