of course!
 

yup, the current discontent on healthcare is BAD. Yup, it will turn into violence. Jimmy Carter even says its racist to question Barak on issues. How do the dems live with them selves.......


WASHINGTON – House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Thursday that the anti-government rhetoric over President Barack Obama's health care reform effort is concerning because it reminds her of the violent debate over gay rights that roiled San Francisco in the 1970s.

Anyone voicing hateful or violent rhetoric, she told reporters, must take responsibility for the results.

"I have concerns about some of the language that is being used because I saw this myself in the late '70s in San Francisco," Pelosi said, suddenly speaking quietly. "This kind of rhetoric was very frightening" and created a climate in which violence took place, she said.

Former San Francisco Supervisor Dan White was convicted of the 1978 murders of Mayor George Moscone and openly gay supervisor Harvey Milk. Gay rights activists and some others at the time saw a link between the assassinations and the violent debate over gay rights that had preceded them for years.

During a rambling confession, White was quoted as saying, "I saw the city as going kind of downhill." His lawyers argued that he was mentally ill at the time. White committed suicide in 1985.

Pelosi is part of a generation of California Democrats on whom the assassinations had a searing effect. A resident of San Fransisco, Pelosi had been a Democratic activist for years and knew Milk and Moscone. At the time of their murders, she was serving as chairwoman of her party in the northern part of the state.

On Thursday, Pelosi was answering a question about whether the current vitriol concerned her. The questioner did not refer to the murders of Milk or Moscone, or the turmoil in San Francisco three decades ago. Pelosi referenced those events on her own and grew uncharacteristically emotional.

"I wish that we would all, again, curb our enthusiasm in some of the statements that are made," Pelosi said. Some of the people hearing the message "are not as balanced as the person making the statement might assume," she said.

"Our country is great because people can say what they think and they believe," she added. "But I also think that they have to take responsibility for any incitement that they may cause."

Pelosi's office did not immediately respond to a request for examples of contemporary statements that reminded the speaker of the rhetoric of 1970s San Francisco.

The public anger during health care town hall meetings in August spilled into the House last week when South Carolina Republican Joe Wilson shouted "You lie!" at Obama, the nation's first black president, during his speech. On a largely party-line vote, the House reprimanded Wilson.

I guess us "radicals" learned to voice our discontent from .......

YouTube - I Am Sick And Tired - Hillary Clinton

It's a crazy world we live in.

Under the direction of the Speaker of the House, the Sergeant at Arms is responsible for maintaining order and decorum in the House chamber.

Pelosi should have gaveled Wilson and had the Sergent at Arms escort him out.

While I don't necessarily agree with Carter's assessment, that's not what he said, it's what you would have liked to think he said.

-spence

Of course:

The normally nonchalant Barack Obama looked nonplussed, as Nancy Pelosi glowered behind.

Surrounded by middle-aged white guys — a sepia snapshot of the days when such pols ran Washington like their own men’s club — Joe Wilson yelled “You lie!” at a president who didn’t.

But, fair or not, what I heard was an unspoken word in the air: You lie, boy!

......Wilson clearly did not like being lectured and even rebuked by the brainy black president presiding over the majestic chamber.

Sepia snapshot is a good analogy. It looks like a tobacco company board of directors on the republican side of the isle. I hope next time he shouts out, "South Carolina, Secedes!"

Brilliant literary touch. Reads like the opening chapter to a short story or novel. Hard to tell if it's a parody of how ridiculous is the contention that Wilson's remark is racist, or if it's a serious rebuke of "white male" racism (nice touch having a woman glowering at the retarded backwoods good ol' boy). Guess will have to wait for the rest of the book to be published to find out.

That's not my little gem of insight, it is an excerpt from an op/ed piece in the NY Times last Sunday.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/13/opinion/13dowd.html

Ah! That clears up my confusion as to the intent. Fair or not, I hear elitist East Coast prejudice against the South.

I think the "key" was...“You lie!” at a president who didn’t.

ohhh, but he did NY Times...repeatedly...and as usual, pointing out the offense is far worse an offense than actually committing the offense....We are all Racists Now :uhuh:

you know the dems and Obama are in trouble when they roll out a deranged, failed, bitter, old anti-semite ex-President to attack Obamas critics...:rotf2:

Everything in the NYT is a lie also - but they do set the media agenda. You guys seem really bright, you should contribute. It's not that hard to do - just pitch your idea to the editor of the appropriate desk.
Make sure you follow the New York Times Manual of Style and Usage, they can be real sticklers for grammar and punctuation.