Data shows that Democrats are the authoritarians
 

Let me guess
the new right wing seer from South America
Glen Greenwald
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Why would you have to guess? I know you avoid watching a video because you're not able to discuss or rebut what you think it is about--but his picture is staring you in the face, and you need to guess?

As I've said, you're a fraud.

And Greenwald is not right wing. The video does not support the right wing. But he is an equal opportunity opponent of authoritarianism. He briefly admits in the video that it's the Democrat party that's changed, not him. It left him, not the other way around. As far as guessing goes, I would guess he wants the Democrats to get back to being antagonistic to the anti-democratic threat of corporatism wedded to fascistic speech censoring liberty suppressing authoritarian government power muscled by the FBI and CIA and an autocratic regulatory apparatus.

He is far more in favor of the pre-Biden era Bernie Sanders than anything resembling the Republican Party. He is calling out the Democrats in order to get them back to being civil libertarians instead of the authoritarians they have become.

And in this video he is citing data compiled by the usual statisticians that even the left wing relies on. He didn't conjecture, guess, or fabricate the stats. They are what they are. And the Democrats are authoritarians.

pete's rhetoric and that of his fellow travelers here is proof that greenwald is right....

Glenn Greenwald is the patron saint of people who think they're libertarians but are really fascists.
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actually, if examine what the democraps, tech, some industry and media are trying to do currently...you will recognize fascism...better fall in line or else.....

You tube where conservatives go to find their own experts …. I love this one because Dems trust the FBI and Republicans do not .. thats a data point greenwald uses to supports who’s authoritarian And yet 75% of Republicans think Trump won the election whats that called ? Oh wait I know Patriotism
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Oh wait he also makes the same comparison with trust in the media if you hate the media your not a authoritarian but if you support the media you are ? Wow this guy loves feeding a mindless base , who are full of sheep ! And he plays you by re enforcement of the lies you already believe are actually True .. to make money

Attack the deep state and get paid
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i don’t think ones feelings towards the media have anything to do with whether or not ones an authoritarian.

conservatives want less intrusion from government, more individual freedoms.

liberals want more rules set by the government and less ability for individuals to decide things for themselves.

That’s the way it is, those are accurate descriptions.
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For thousands of years, conservatism was universally understood as being in opposition to democracy. Having lost much of its ability to attack democracy openly, conservatism has tried in recent years to redefine the word "democracy" while engaging in deception to make the substance of democracy unthinkable.

Almost all of the early immigrants to America left behind societies that had been oppressed by conservatism. The democratic culture that Americans have built is truly one of the monuments of civilization. And American culture remains vibrant to this day despite centuries of conservative attack.

WTF?..."let's go Brandon!"

so you are saying there is a deep state....

Just as classy as Trumplican congressman
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"Conservatism is the domination of society by an aristocracy."

Oh. Conservatives want domination by an aristocracy? Is that why conservatives want citizens to enjoy lower taxes and easier access to guns? Because when regular people have guns and more of their own money, that makes it easier for aristocrats to dominate them, right?

I mean, that makes all kinds of sense. That's not even a little bit crazy!

"Conservatism is incompatible with democracy, prosperity, and civilization in general"

Which must explain why everyone is moving out of FL and TX, and re-locating to CA and NY, right?

Again, that makes all kinds of sense. That's not even a little bit crazy!


"Conservatism is a destructive system of inequality and prejudice"

And that explains why conservatives fought to maintain slavery, right? And also explains why conservatives later fought to hold onto Jim Crow segregation? And it was the democrats who fought to end slavery and segregation! Aha!

Again, that makes all kinds of sense. That's not even a little bit crazy!

I mean, that's just unassailable, fact-based, dripping-with-common-sense stuff there. Wow. We are very impressed.

It's liberals who want limited central government, and conservatives who want an all-powerful dictatorship. Obviously!

That was way, way out there, even for him.

Jim conservatives only support the freedoms they agree with ! they don’t care about other Americans freedoms.. just look at the law they pass .. or try to pass freedom is just a catch phrase,, and I hate to say it’s Republicans who have expanded government after 9/11 and Dems went along

And it’s. Lie to suggest liberals want less freedoms.. that’s conservative brainwashing and seems it’s working


Liberal

willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.
2.
relating to or denoting a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise.

Conservative

1.
averse to change or innovation and holding traditional values.

(in a political context) favoring free enterprise, private ownership, and socially traditional ideas.

Even Webster won’t say conservatives care about individual rights
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really?

oh good, more cut and paste from the dictionary

"Jim conservatives only support the freedoms they agree with !"

Oh, so it's the democrats who support freedoms they don't agree with. Like the freedom to ask questions at a BOE meeting.

"Republicans who have expanded government after 9/11"

Wanting increased safety, isn't contrary to conservatism. It's one of the things they want government to do.

"And it’s. Lie to suggest liberals want less freedoms"

Like freedom to not wear a mask, freedom to go to church during a pandemic if BLM riots are allowed to take place, freedom to not have my tax dollars go to teachers unions, and from there to Planned Parenthood and to democrats.

Knowledge is best produced in a liberal culture. This is why the most prosperous and innovative regions of the United States are also the most politically liberal, and why the most conservative regions of the country are also the greatest beneficiaries of transfer payments. Liberals create wealth and government redistributes it to conservatives. This is, of course, the opposite of the received conservative opinion in the media, and indeed in most of academia. But it is true.

this is amusing....I think you are confusing liberal with communist

there is nothing "liberal" about today's democrats based on wayne's offered definition

"Liberal

willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas. nope
2.
relating to or denoting a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise." definitely nope

knowledge? or indoctrination?

yes liberalism is awesome. again, that’s why everyone is leaving TX and FL and moving to CA and NY and CT. and why the liberal states have such low taxes and such healthy balance sheets.
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That's the price of living in a civil society

As a Texas politician said: "This prohibition against vaccine mandates is like as if the governor were telling me that I can’t issue an order to evacuate the coastal areas when a hurricane is barreling toward us."

Meaning, when liberals like it, they'll take freedoms away. Yet you said conservatives only support freedoms they like. You forgot to mention that everyone does that.

Why do liberal states have such high taxes, yet so much debt? Here in CT, we give an enormous amount of money to the state, yet our debt currently works out to nearly $100,000 for every taxpayer in the state. How does that happen? Why is that so common in liberal states (CT, MA, NY, NJ. IL)?

And Texas and Florida are getting bluer each year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKIe7sb9QWQ

Jim you and the right use the word freedom as a catch phrase there no meaning behind it just look at your BS examples suggesting no liberals go to church or want to be rid of masks or control where their tax money goes !
And you throw BLM in for good measure.. it’s all smoke and mirrors with the trump Republicans

As I said look at their legislation? Or lack of legislation

Ban this ban that the only thing Republicans seem expand are laws for gun owners , or tax breaks for the rich which are not paid for then claim to be fiscally responsible and freedom 1st
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if you don’t like the way it feels when i say freedom ( actually pete said it, and you didn’t care when he said it), that’s your problem.
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you have a pattern of contradicting yourself from sentence to sentence.

in one sentence you criticize republicans for not enacting legislation ( which is what always happens to the minority party) then you say they ban this, ban that.

if they’re not doing anything, how do they ban everything?

you should try reading your posts before you actually post.

“tax cuts for the rich”.

a proven lie. proven. i’m not rich, i got a nice tax cut. they doubled the standard deduction,,which doesn’t help anyone who’s rich.

cbs looked at three families to see the effect of the tax cuts. a single mom making 40k a year saved $1300 a year. is she rich, wayne?

they drastically increased the child tax credit. helps lots of people
who aren’t rich. rich people are t eligible for that credit. it’s phased out for higher incomes

Duh.

if the conservative agenda is so bad, why did a record number of americans say they were better off in 2020 than 4 years ago? a record number of americans identified as better off after 4 years of trump, o president ever did as well o. Gallup’s poll. and that was at the height of covid.

people hated trump’s antics. they liked his agenda. how else can you explain that poll?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbs...ican-families/


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When did Jim say liberals don’t go to church?
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Another one who can’t understand the word suggest . So what was Jim suggesting he did use liberals in his example

And it’s. Lie to suggest liberals want less freedoms"

Like freedom to not wear a mask, freedom to go to church during a pandemic
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You guys do realize he just posts stuff like this to make money off of right wing sites right?

Seven students are suing a Texas school district over its dress-code policy banning boys from having long hair.
School officials suspended a 9-year-old boy for a month, barred him from recess and normal lunch breaks as punishment for long hair, the lawsuit claims.


FREEDOM!!!!!
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Spence the truth is not allowed when talking about right wing YouTube stars

It’s all about small government and Freedom …. Never about the money
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Biden brings down Trump’s record-setting deficit by $360 billion in one year.
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Philip E. Agre, whom you are quoting (without the proper attribution) can't seem to wrap his mind around the notion that American "conservatism" as it expresses itself is all about preserving that monument of civilization rather than attacking it for "centuries."

He doesn't get that American so-called "conservatism" is not the same as European conservatism. Nor the same as his reputed thousands of years of what he calls conservatism dating, presumably, back to the pharaohs, or maybe even before that.

The reason I don't like to use the term "conservative" and usually put it in quotes when I do, is because it is more a vague political label that means different things to different people. Usually, the context, tells what it is supposed to mean. But it is not a useful political term when speaking in general or "universal" contexts, such as how Agre did in the essay you were quoting from.

And, BTW, that essay was written 17 years ago, and the Democrat party was still evolving then and has done so precipitously since then into the authoritarians that would not fit Agre's notion of "liberal" nor even, I presume (since I don't know exactly what he means by the word), his idea of "democratic." The present Democrat party would, in many respects, fit Agre's notion of "conservatism." Glenn Greenwald has been pointing that out over the past five or so years. And I believe Greenwald would pretty much agree with most of Agre's ideas on creating a democratic culture.

He wasn’t suggesting liberals don’t go to church
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You’ve always been a mind reader 😂
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i wasn’t, but i could have been. we. cant agree that liberals are less faithful than observations? conservatives aren’t more religious?

doesn’t mean no liberals go to church, but conservatives are much more serious about religion. duh.
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We have compulsory education for children between a range of ages between 5-16. Under current law, they are not FREE to begin with. And within various districts various codes of conduct or acceptable behavior are enforced. All of this is a result of "democracy." The majority has decided it to be so. FREEDOM and democracy are not synonymous. "Our Democracy" provides for the majority in given districts to require certain conduct in the schools.

I'm guessing you want us to be a "democracy." If the majority continues to give districts the power to require appropriate conduct, as well as the power to teach things that various parents think is harmful to their children, "our democracy" will empower schools to do so.

We still have access to redress and relief in the court system. But that has become increasingly shaky, depending on how judges feel or "interpret."

did anyone ever say that republicans want no laws/rules? You're responding to something that no one ever said.

I've never actually heard anyone deny that conservatives want fewer impositions on individual liberty (overall...not on every single individual issue) than liberals. You're making history here Wayne, you're denying that conservatives want smaller (but not zero) government intrusion into our lives.

In the last few days, you have refused to accept the NSBAs admission that they lied in their letter to Biden. In the same sentence, you have accused conservatives of both doing nothing, and of banning everything. Now you're saying (I think? It's hard to follow) conservatives want the government to control every aspect of what we wear, and how we wear our hair? One school district in TX, speaks for all of the conservatives in the country?

You think it's fair to take one extreme example, and apply that to all conservatives? Does the Loudon County school boars speak for you? When they explicitly lied to cover up a rape in school (We now know for a fact that's exactly what happened), does that say anything about all democrats? Can I use your logic, and say that therefore you are in favor of protecting rapists?

Wayne, how about we hold people accountable for what they say and do, not blame people for what others say and do?

If you refuse to take off the tin foil hat, at least loosen the straps a little.

good grief...

According to its dress code policy, boys cannot wear their hair over their eyes, past the bottom of their ears, or past the bottom of a dress shirt collar.

The suit, filed by the American Civil Liberties Union of Texas (ACLU) on Thursday on behalf of the students, argues the school district "imposed immense and irreparable harm... solely because of these students' gender".


I wonder if the ACLU is suing the Loudoun school district for allowing a gender confused boy to rape a couple of girls in their girl's bathrooms and then cover it up because that seems to me to be more "immense and irreparable" harm than a haircut....