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Jim in CT 11-12-2020 03:45 PM

judge rules PA secretary of state had no authority to extend voting deadline
 
It would appear that the accusations of irregularities, were not completely unfounded. Likely nowhere near enough to change the outcome (Budens lead has grown), but are these things worth looking into? or should we pretend they don’t exist?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pen...anged-deadline

Pete F. 11-12-2020 04:12 PM

Trump just won the Pennsylvania lawsuit saying ballots arriving after election day can't be counted.

That sounds great until you realize these were previously set aside (and are not included in counts), there are less than 10,000 of them, and Biden is leading PA by 54,109 votes.
Meanwhile he’s playing games with National Security
Just what is his goal?
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scottw 11-12-2020 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1205179)

That sounds great until you realize these were previously set aside (and are not included in counts), there are less than 10,000 of them, and Biden is leading PA by 54,109 votes.

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I don't think this is accurate...

scottw 11-12-2020 06:04 PM

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yeah, I heard he has 472 million votes now...did you know that's a record? :rotflmao:

Pete F. 11-12-2020 07:33 PM

How’s the “Golden Goose” doing?
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wdmso 11-12-2020 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1205178)
It would appear that the accusations of irregularities, were not completely unfounded. Likely nowhere near enough to change the outcome (Budens lead has grown), but are these things worth looking into? or should we pretend they don’t exist?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pen...anged-deadline

Jim this happened before the election .. your dedication to this fool is incredible
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wdmso 11-12-2020 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1205186)
I don't think this is accurate...

Of course you don’t because it’s true


Judge ruled ballots that were previously set aside should not be counted
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Nebe 11-12-2020 09:56 PM

Repeat after me. President Biden. Vice President Harris.
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scottw 11-13-2020 04:11 AM

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Of course you don’t because it’s true


Judge ruled ballots that were previously set aside should not be counted

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Originally Posted by Pete F. View Post

Trump just won the Pennsylvania lawsuit saying ballots arriving after election day can't be counted.



read

"may not count ballots where the voters needed to provide proof of identification and failed to do so by Nov. 9"


....but I'm sure you are ok with voting without proof of ID:)...


After the Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruled that mail-in ballots could be accepted three days after Election Day, Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar submitted guidance that said proof of identification could be provided up until Nov. 12, which is six days from the ballot acceptance deadline. That guidance was issued two days before Election Day.

“[T]he Court concludes that Respondent Kathy Boockvar, in her official capacity as Secretary of the Commonwealth, lacked statutory authority to issue the November 1, 2020, guidance

The Dad Fisherman 11-13-2020 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1205199)
Repeat after me. President Biden. Vice President Harris.
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Isn’t everyone supposed to run around Sky Screaming “Not My President”?

I thought that precedent was set 4 years ago.
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scottw 11-13-2020 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1205217)

Isn’t everyone supposed to run around Sky Screaming “Not My President”?

I thought that precedent was set 4 years ago.
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they are too busy spray painting public property, blocking highways, threatening citizens in their cars and destroying police vehicles and burning buildings....oh wait....

Pete F. 11-13-2020 09:14 AM

So as of this morning, Trump is represented in his PA lawsuit by...a divorce attorney.
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zimmy 11-13-2020 09:23 AM

I like how his lawyers made sure the remaining votes that "could" help cut into Biden's 54,000 vote lead can't be counted. This is the problem when you want some counting to stop and other counting to continue. Even the lawyers get confused.

wdmso 11-13-2020 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1205204)
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Originally Posted by Pete F. View Post

Trump just won the Pennsylvania lawsuit saying ballots arriving after election day can't be counted.



read

"may not count ballots where the voters needed to provide proof of identification and failed to do so by Nov. 9"


....but I'm sure you are ok with voting without proof of ID:)...


After the Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruled that mail-in ballots could be accepted three days after Election Day, Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar submitted guidance that said proof of identification could be provided up until Nov. 12, which is six days from the ballot acceptance deadline. That guidance was issued two days before Election Day.

“[T]he Court concludes that Respondent Kathy Boockvar, in her official capacity as Secretary of the Commonwealth, lacked statutory authority to issue the November 1, 2020, guidance

Ahh the ID card argument do some research 34 states require voters to show identification at the polls in order to cast a ballot. PA is not one of them .

The constitution say you need an ID to Vote no

It’s all about voter suppression not having a secure election

Your boy Trump would cry fraud even if all states had voter ID and you would I am 100% certain you would stand with him. truth be damned

PS who push Voter I’d laws Republicans
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zimmy 11-13-2020 09:32 AM

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Isn’t everyone supposed to run around Sky Screaming “Not My President”?

I thought that precedent was set 4 years ago.
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I'm not particularly surprised you thought that, but...

Got Stripers 11-13-2020 09:35 AM

If you still have crazy I've really lost my mind Rudy out front making your case for voter fraud, well you get what you pay for; I guess money is still tight in Trump world. Trump being the con man he is, is gathering election defense donations from the mindless supporters who have bought into his conspiracy theories.

wdmso 11-13-2020 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1205217)
Isn’t everyone supposed to run around Sky Screaming “Not My President”?

I thought that precedent was set 4 years ago.
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No 11 years ago
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zimmy 11-13-2020 09:36 AM

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Isn’t everyone supposed to run around Sky Screaming “Not My President”?

I thought that precedent was set 4 years ago.
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I bet you like this guy too.
Sean Hannity: Obama's "Not My President" January 12, 2015

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...president.html

The Dad Fisherman 11-13-2020 09:47 AM

Big fan, one of the greatest journalistic minds of our time. Up there with Cronkite
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scottw 11-13-2020 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1205224)
34 states require voters to show identification at the polls in order to cast a ballot. PA is not one of them

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the ballots in question were not cast in person...for the ballots in question you do...try to pay attention

State of PA

If a voter is voting for the first time in an election district, the voter must show proof
of identification, either photo or non-photo identification.

Act 18 of 2012 imposed new proof of identification requirements for voters applying to vote by absentee ballot. The court’s ruling in 2014 did not affect those new requirements and
they remain in effect.


A voter applying to vote by absentee ballot must provide proof of identification.


A voter who does not include proof of identification with the absentee ballot application should still receive an absentee ballot; however, the county board of elections must send a notice to the voter with the absentee ballot requiring the voter to provide proof of identification
with the absentee ballot.

zimmy 11-13-2020 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1205230)
Big fan, one of the greatest journalistic minds of our time. Up there with Cronkite
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Interesting choice of words. I understand why.
:biglaugh:

"I never claimed to be a journalist"
Sean Hannity
August 21, 2016 NYT

Asked...whether Fox considered Hannity a journalist, a network spokesman declined to answer directly. She would only allow that Hannity is “an opinion talk-show host.”
April 15, 2018

wdmso 11-13-2020 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1205231)
the ballots in question were not cast in person...for the ballots in question you do...try to pay attention

State of PA

If a voter is voting for the first time in an election district, the voter must show proof
of identification, either photo or non-photo identification.

Act 18 of 2012 imposed new proof of identification requirements for voters applying to vote by absentee ballot. The court’s ruling in 2014 did not affect those new requirements and
they remain in effect.


A voter applying to vote by absentee ballot must provide proof of identification.


A voter who does not include proof of identification with the absentee ballot application should still receive an absentee ballot; however, the county board of elections must send a notice to the voter with the absentee ballot requiring the voter to provide proof of identification
with the absentee ballot.

How an un-American suggestion to allow some one more time for to correct their ballot so it counts ..

are you suggesting Trump would file such a law suit in a state he won?

That’s the problem with Trump lovers and conservatives in general they suggest they are all for the equal application of justice under the law .. but only claim fraud in Democratic areas
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scottw 11-13-2020 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1205246)

How an un-American suggestion to allow some one more time for to correct their ballot so it counts ..


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You really don’t know anything do you?
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wdmso 11-13-2020 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1205247)
You really don’t know anything do you?
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I know enough to understand when a party cares more about fake fraud then allowing voters to actual vote
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Pete F. 11-13-2020 03:58 PM

I think Tweety is getting close to accepting his participation award and going home to Floriduh

“ Now it is learned that the horrendous Dominion Voting System was used in Arizona (and big in Nevada). No wonder the result was a very close loss!”
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scottw 11-13-2020 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1205249)
I know enough to understand when a party cares more about fake fraud then allowing voters to actual vote
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you can't change election law right before an election particularly when it is not within your purview to do so...


“[T]he Court concludes that Respondent Kathy Boockvar, in her official capacity as Secretary of the Commonwealth, lacked statutory authority to issue the November 1, 2020, guidance to Respondents County Boards of Elections insofar as that guidance purported to change the deadline … for certain electors to verify proof of identification,” Judge Mary Hannah Leavitt said in a court order.


This was in line with the Trump campaign’s argument, which was that there was no basis in the state’s law to extend the identification deadline, and that Boockvar did not have the power to unilaterally change it.

wdmso 11-13-2020 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1205255)
you can't change election law right before an election particularly when it is not within your purview to do so...


“[T]he Court concludes that Respondent Kathy Boockvar, in her official capacity as Secretary of the Commonwealth, lacked statutory authority to issue the November 1, 2020, guidance to Respondents County Boards of Elections insofar as that guidance purported to change the deadline … for certain electors to verify proof of identification,” Judge Mary Hannah Leavitt said in a court order.


This was in line with the Trump campaign’s argument, which was that there was no basis in the state’s law to extend the identification deadline, and that Boockvar did not have the power to unilaterally change it.

And what does this have to do with this massive fraud you still insist exist
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wdmso 11-13-2020 08:15 PM

Scott you need to head over to Breitbart You’ll fit right in .


Donald Trump is Commander in Chief of the Pentagon until January 21, 2021

Do the Saturday Night Massacre thing right now. No delay.

Order the seizure of all ballots in WI, MI, PA, Georgia and NC. Bring them all back to the White House. Arrest all on-air talent at the TV networks and their CEO's beginning with Rupert Murdoch who is part of the coup.

Democracy is over. Trump rules or the communists do. It's one or the other.
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scottw 11-14-2020 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1205264)

Do the Saturday Night Massacre thing right now. No delay.

Order the seizure of all ballots in WI, MI, PA, Georgia and NC. Bring them all back to the White House. Arrest all on-air talent at the TV networks and their CEO's beginning with Rupert Murdoch who is part of the coup.

Democracy is over. Trump rules or the communists do. It's one or the other.

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:huh:

you know...if you listen to what some elected democrats are actually saying along with some media members on the left etc...there are actually some calling for a reckoning for trump and his supporters

so I think you are projecting again

Got Stripers 11-14-2020 06:07 AM

Posturing aside, which is politics as usual, for this current administration to not help with the transition after a clear mandate by the voters is dangerous. With this virus running rampant again and our economy and national security tied to it, to not allow the Biden team access to key briefings and planning is a national security risk. The spoiled childlike behavior I expect from the thin skinned orange baby but it’s shocking so many Republicans are enabling this dangerous behavior.

scottw 11-14-2020 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1205272)
Posturing aside, which is politics as usual, for this current administration to not help with the transition after a clear mandate by the voters is dangerous. With this virus running rampant again and our economy and national security tied to it, to not allow the Biden team access to key briefings and planning is a national security risk. The spoiled childlike behavior I expect from the thin skinned orange baby but it’s shocking so many Republicans are enabling this dangerous behavior.

this is posturing...

wdmso 11-14-2020 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1205271)
:huh:

you know...if you listen to what some elected democrats are actually saying along with some media members on the left etc...there are actually some calling for a reckoning for trump and his supporters

so I think you are projecting again

No they are suggesting elected officials comment and their choice to defend Trumps claims of fraud to be used against them in the future . Aka elections only right wingers hear prosecution

Like the Biden rule was used to excuse Republicans for pushing thru Amy’s appointment

tell me again who plotted to kill a Governor or who mailed explosives devices from a van.


But what’s absent in all your responses is where you stand on Trumps massive fraud claims 11 days after the elections, seeing what has and hasn’t been presented and if you agreed with Trump should pull of Saturday night massacre.
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Got Stripers 11-18-2020 07:04 AM

Trump is showing his keen business sense, as law firms drop out and refuse to litigate these baseless voter fraud cases, which ironically nobody has stated in court; Trump hires Rudy who hasn’t been in court in 30 years. If your paying an old out of his element crazy lawyer $20,000 per day, it’s no wonder he has filed for bankruptcy so many times.

Pete F. 11-18-2020 07:44 AM

Every second of this post election period is strengthening my conviction that the American experiment would not have survived another Trump term
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wdmso 11-18-2020 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1205392)
Every second of this post election period is strengthening my conviction that the American experiment would not have survived another Trump term
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It would never had been his fault Trumps base cult love for him wouldn’t allow it.

They think he stopped NK a they Think he fixed Iran They think he showed China they think he helped farmers, they loved his spending the think he rebuilt the military. And now they think the election was stolen all because

Trump said so..

Yet they demand to be respected and listened to. Because in their Eyes they are True Americans And not costal elites

Even with that term their knowledge of Where states are is comical

Since when is NV NM CO MN MI IL and GA been elites

Still you have the 2 Dakotas plus WY and MT all getting 12 electoral votes combined plus 8 Senate seats for a combined population of a tad over 2 million while Ma has 11 electoral votes 2 senators and a population of 6.7 million , talk about every States getting a participation Trophy sad that 2 million people over 4 states have more say then one state 5million more Americans

Republicans won’t change it they won’t swap equatable when the have the Advantage
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Jim in CT 11-18-2020 10:21 AM

yes pete, america could not have survived a second term. that’s why we were doing so poorly before the pandemic. how could we have handled four more years of that kind of peace and prosperity?
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Jim in CT 11-18-2020 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1205393)
It would never had been his fault Trumps base cult love for him wouldn’t allow it.

They think he stopped NK a they Think he fixed Iran They think he showed China they think he helped farmers, they loved his spending the think he rebuilt the military. And now they think the election was stolen all because

Trump said so..

Yet they demand to be respected and listened to. Because in their Eyes they are True Americans And not costal elites

Even with that term their knowledge of Where states are is comical

Since when is NV NM CO MN MI IL and GA been elites

Still you have the 2 Dakotas plus WY and MT all getting 12 electoral votes combined plus 8 Senate seats for a combined population of a tad over 2 million while Ma has 11 electoral votes 2 senators and a population of 6.7 million , talk about every States getting a participation Trophy sad that 2 million people over 4 states have more say then one state 5million more Americans

Republicans won’t change it they won’t swap equatable when the have the Advantage
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ask the democrats in the small
states if they want to do away with the electoral college, I’d sincerely be curious to know what they think.

wasn’t that long ago, when democratic presidential
candidates did just fine within the electoral college. the people in flyover country didn’t tell the DNC to march a million miles to the left, embracing late term abortions, open borders, student loan forgiveness, single payer healthcare, hating religion, reparations, green new deals, defunding the police, court stacking, etc...

if you want to embrace positions that people don’t like, there will be consequences. i hate to be the one to tell you.

They didn’t force Hilary to refer to them as deplorable and irredeemable. She put that in. scripted remark, it’s on her if people
didn’t like it.

here’s a shocking idea...since those people are americans too, maybe the dnc could adopt policies that are a bit more palatable to them.

Bill Clinton knew how to be everyone’s president. a good lesson for democrats and republicans alike.

the democrats will eventually run out of minorities to check off, and at some point they’ll have to nominate someone who will run on their policies, not their skin tone or genitalia.
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Pete F. 11-18-2020 11:58 AM

Let’s speak frankly about the Republican position in the wake of this election: It is that the votes of black people are presumptively not legal votes.

It really is that simple.
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Pete F. 11-18-2020 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1205397)
yes pete, america could not have survived a second term. that’s why we were doing so poorly before the pandemic. how could we have handled four more years of that kind of peace and prosperity?
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250K dead
11.4M cases
11M unemployed
A divided country

You’ve got John Cornyn saying

“It’s the president’s prerogative, but I think it just adds to the confusion and chaos and I’m sure I’m not the only one that would like some return to a little bit more of a—I don’t even know what’s normal anymore”

You think he’s doing a great job and want more?
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wdmso 11-18-2020 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1205398)
ask the democrats in the small
states if they want to do away with the electoral college, I’d sincerely be curious to know what they think.

wasn’t that long ago, when democratic presidential
candidates did just fine within the electoral college. the people in flyover country didn’t tell the DNC to march a million miles to the left, embracing late term abortions, open borders, student loan forgiveness, single payer healthcare, hating religion, reparations, green new deals, defunding the police, court stacking, etc...

if you want to embrace positions that people don’t like, there will be consequences. i hate to be the one to tell you.

They didn’t force Hilary to refer to them as deplorable and irredeemable. She put that in. scripted remark, it’s on her if people
didn’t like it.

here’s a shocking idea...since those people are americans too, maybe the dnc could adopt policies that are a bit more palatable to them.

Bill Clinton knew how to be everyone’s president. a good lesson for democrats and republicans alike.

the democrats will eventually run out of minorities to check off, and at some point they’ll have to nominate someone who will run on their policies, not their skin tone or genitalia.
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I guess Republicans will never be short of white grievance race baiting lying candidates with guys like you supporting them with out question

And Why do conservatives see everything in absolute terms . They do it all the time .. wanting back ground checks is taking fire arms. Supporting a women’s right to choose , don’t respect life , against discrimination, is attacking religion

Talking about adjusting the electoral college or senate allotment , is seen as removing it

Is that all conservatives can to is lie as a counter argument. It’s beyond old
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