US raid against Islamic State
 

There are unconfirmed reports of a US raid against Islamic State leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi

The raid was carried out by US special operations forces after they received "actionable intelligence",

The info came from the Kurds how Ironic , clearly a good thing if he is dead..

But i find the timing odd ..
Cant wait to see what the quid pro quo is I doubt the Kurds gave this info for free

I heard obama got him

^^^ This is good if true, heard last night and was waiting for conf. Trump announced it this morning so it is probably true (there is a history of top militant fighters being killed not turning out true - particularly in air strikes)


I was expecting someone to comment how , ahhh nevermond.

https://www.bbc.com/news/video_and_a...ghdadi-is-dead

.. he was doing so well until 1:15 , then he went down a weird path..
For me anyway

great timing :kewl:

Saturday Night Live went on the air at 11:30 pm Eastern time with an opening skit where Alec Baldwin's Very Fake Trump was thanked by Pete Davidson's Very Fake ISIS Member for "bringing jobs back...for ISIS." Six minutes before, Jennifer Griffin of Fox News was tweeting that ISIS leader Abu-Bakr al-Baghdadi may have been killed in a raid by U.S. forces in Syria. John Santucci of ABC reported it via Twitter at 11:53.

Glad they got him but I shook my head when Trump think al-baghdadi is worse than bin Laden. Also hearing Trump describe itwhas like listening to Isis describing a raid.
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Thank you for your leadership and defending the USA Mr.President.
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Trump didn’t catch that bad hombre. The military did. ;)
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America 1st never rang so true. Great leadership inspires.
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Sounds like our special ops pulled off another difficult mission. Good for them. And now back to our regularly programmed impeachment hearings :hihi:

And here I thought the mission was green lighted just to distract from these very serious hearings. I guess it didn’t work.🤷🏽#^&♂️
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There’s always a tweet for any occasion
10/22/12
Stop congratulating Obama for killing Bin Laden. The Navy Seals killed Bin Laden.
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i have no trouble believing that Trump downplayed Obama's role in the Bin Laden killing (which wasn't much of a role, but he deserves some credit), while Trump will claim he jumped out of a helicopter with a kabar knfe in his mouth to personally get this guy.

To his credit Trump made sure
the mission was carried out before Pelosi, Schumer knew about it and had their chance to leak it
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You just eat up all Trump’s divisive baloney.
That’s the Trumplican way
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Pretty hilarious
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Actually. The pentagon rushed to get this done before the Trump’s move to pull out troops had been completed. In other words, trump almost botched this
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yup

if it makes you feel better I guess :hihi:

I am sure he had to actually pause his golf game for a few minutes to issue the order....

Either way, good shoot. 👍
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I heard it was mr. mustard in the parlor with the golf club
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Trump as usual really doesn’t understand Isis or the Islamic terrorist mentality. Losing the leader is important, but it by no means ends their efforts. If fact Trump provided them a wonderful recruitment video that will no doubt be of great help as they move forward. A dog insult in their culture is a low blow and they will use Trumps description of his death to recruit the next generation. In typical Trump fashion, he claimed Isis uses the internet better than anyone except him of course, because he always has to be the best.
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so we should have left him alone because it might help recruitment?
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al qaeda survived bin laden death and morphed into to todays Isis .. the killing of both of them is a good thing .. but we tend to only kill them long after they killed so many. Until the idea is killed by a resonable standards of living in the middle east they will always be rebuilding in the shadows..

Iraqis are rioting in the streets in vast numbers its an incubator for extremists..

And Trumps granstanding and name calling .(yes he deserved to die a horrible death) and ive heard it before he's says it like it is,or hes not a politician or some just like the tough guy act.. for me it only diminishes the office of The Potus ...

And all my years in the service and correction ..

Those who have done the most been or been in the worst battles .. alway Say the least .. but the message was alway clear..
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very well said. very hard to accomplish.
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venting snowflake

No just shut the fu*k, no details were needed, but Trump is ALL about the show; ran for fame and fortune.
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No just calling an idiot an idiot, don’t feed their propaganda machine, no cure for stupid.
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so obama didn’t like to say, “general motors is alive and bin laden is dead”, his way of spiking the football? but it’s ok when he does it, because he does it in harvard-speak. sorry, what’s good for the goose.

this guy they killed, the head of isis, kidnapped an american girl who was a humanitarian aid worker in
syria, they kept her for
months, and he himself tortured and raped her, then they executed her and dumped her body. the parents will never even be able to bury her. trump should have announced that they brought his body home and fed it to pigs. if egging them on brings them out of the shadows, fire up the drones and release the hellfires until
our inventory is dry.

it’s ok when obama
pats himself on the back, but unbefitting a potus when trump does it.
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The idea that Trump's insulting, fighting language would be an incentive to recruit more ISIS fighters is just propaganda to turn a positive for him into a negative. Just as the left will do, and has done, with every thing that would bolster Trump's approval numbers. The whole impeachment nonsense is for that very purpose. And anything and everything else that can bring his numbers down or keep them from going up can hopefully persuade some more Repub Senators, than the few on board now, to convict in the Senate impeachment trial.

If Trump had said what the Wapo originally said--that Bhagdadi was an austere religious scholar who died, would that have softened the ISIS remnant's desire to quit and be nice. Would they have, because Trump said nice things, decided to be less brutal and less motivated to continue what Baghdadi started? Hell no.

They could care less about any show of "civility." If anything, it would be a sign of weakness. They don't respect that. Their whole MO is based on fear. Power and the fear it evokes is the "language" they respect. They have never required insults against them to give them motivation. What would help them get new recruits is the image that they are powerful, and have the backing of Allah. Doing the will of Allah. Characterizing their leader as being killed in disgrace, dying like a cowardly whining dog would not be an attractive pull for a potential recruit. It would not be an attractive sign of successful power, or of the leader and his movement being sanctioned and protected by their God.

But Spence and the anti-Trumpers on the forum will gladly parrot the propaganda talking point to maintain their narrative of Trump being the ignorant, stupid, danger to "our Democracy."

There’s always a Trump tweet for any occasion
10/23/12
The military and Navy Seals should be given more credit for Bin Laden's death, not Obama, who works hard to take all the credit away from them.
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Keeping America safe makes it easy to believe we will see another term from our great president.
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There are always those that call out a R prez that the language is too harsh and will just foster more violence.

Then some of those same gloss over that austere religious scholar.

Reason # 136 you have Trump

The #WaPoDeathNotice was hilarious https://twitter.com/search?q=%23WaPo...ypeahead_click


This is a very bad take, Bob.



I don't think standard of living is enough (nor will happen). Their religion, at least among the mainstream needs a reformation and their culture makes many of them incapable of pulling themselves forward.

Religion or culture, mox nix, doesn't matter.

Perhaps a letter of apology would be more flakeworthy. If we use rubber bullets will they love us?
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Being in IT John and knowing these nuts use the internet almost exclusively for communication and recruitment, I’m surprised you wouldn’t see his comments as damaging. It feeds their hatred hearing their leaders death described that way and provides a great recruiting video for future use. No issue taking a victory lap with commendation for intelligence, military and allies, the comments about how he died are most likely fabricated and completely unnecessary. You of course are entitled to you opinion, I stand by mine.
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You like Trump think small and don’t see this war is far from over and those comments are typical Trump grandstanding.
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The president acknowledged that he had informed some Republicans in Congress, the Russians and the Turks But not the house Democrats

He also claimed that Baghdadi's death was "the biggest"

then Lied again stating "had pointed out that the Al-Qaeda leader "had to be killed before he knocked down the World Trade Center" but that "nobody" had heeded his warning." PS Mr Trump never made such a statement in his book..

called people who oppose him Human Scum his press secretary in response They deserve strong language like that.”


Every day Trumps sound more and more like a fascists than an American president.

and his supporter prefer Trump the Fascists over American President

has anyone said the war is over?

what should trump have done, once we knew where this guy was? sent him a nice floral arrangement?
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How ill advised words get used, why you need to be careful of your speech as a leader and above reproach. There is an internet full of examples.

A ranking IRGC (Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps of Iran) commander said that Washington aims to play down the role of Resistance Axis in fighting terrorism in the region.

“ISIL has been defeated by regional nations and the Resistance Axis and Americans aim to question the role of Resistance in the fight against terrorism and say that ‘we are the one undermining ISIL and fighting terrorism’, but this is not the case,” Brigadier General Ismail Kowsari, Deputy Commander of IRGC’s Sarollah Base, told Mehr News Agency on Tuesday.

Despite creating an anti-ISIL UScoalition, Americans didn’t adopt any measure against terrorists and rather, backed these terror groups with all might and the support still continues, he added.

Trump has repeatedly admitted during his presidential election campaign that ISIL was founded by the United States, Kowsari said.

“ISIL was created by Americans and supported by them during the past years; so Americans were well aware of the terror leader’s hiding place,” he added.

“US leaders came to this conclusion that ISIL was of no use for them any longer,” he said adding that they are now mounting propaganda to claim that they are the ones fighting with terrorism.

He noted that al-Baghdadi’s story is very similar to the case of Bin-Laden al-Qaeda, saying US created both and then as soon as their expiration date arrived, made a media buzz and said that they have killed leaders of Takifiri terrorism.

Source: Mehr News Agency

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6ed0ETdpQo

Russia: Satellite Images Prove US Smuggling of Syrian Oil 
Russia, citing satellite imagery, says the United States has been smuggling Syrian oil to other countries under the protection of its troops before and after the defeat of the Daesh Takfiri terrorist group in the region.

Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Major General Igor Konashenkov said on Saturday that “the space intelligence images showed that oil was actively extracted and massively exported for processing outside Syria, under the reliable protection of US troops, before and after the defeat of the Daesh terrorists.”

Konashenkov stressed that the convoys were guarded by US private military companies and special operations forces.

so ignore that we got the guy, and focus on what could have gone wrong.

what are you afraid would
happen, if you just admitted this isna good thing? the snowflakes went in and in about how
much better off the world
was after Biden got a ukrainian prosecutor fired, but you cannot concede this victory.

enjoy your denial fest.
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