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Pete F. 09-30-2019 05:15 AM

Trump’s losing it
 
Yesterday Trump threatened a whistleblower, accused one or more of his top nat sec aides of being spies, demanded a House Chair be interrogated on suspicion of treason and threatened to foment a civil war if he is removed from office.

18 USC 2383

"Whoever incites... any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States... shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."

Got Stripers 09-30-2019 05:33 AM

He ran for fame and family fortune, he will be famous for being the most corrupt president of our lifetime and his family continues to make money and will squeeze every dime out of us until this ends.
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Nebe 09-30-2019 07:06 AM

Lock HIM UP!
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The Dad Fisherman 09-30-2019 07:26 AM

Four more years :devil:
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Nebe 09-30-2019 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1175293)
Four more years :devil:
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Added to his prison sentence ? Ok
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PaulS 09-30-2019 08:35 AM

Greatest President of our lifetime.






(Saving SD the trouble of posting.)

Pete F. 09-30-2019 09:02 AM

Greatest President, how could he be impeached?


If you think that remember
Nixon ended Vietnam, opened up China, founded the EPA, signed Title IX so women could play sports, helped end desegregation in southern schools, lowered the voting age, created the National Cancer Center, plus he was a dog owner

He was man enough to resign when he was caught, though I wonder if he was given the choice of resigning and a pardon vs Impeachment and Indictment.
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spence 09-30-2019 09:11 AM

Soon Trump will be directly threatening the whistle blower and breaking more laws.

spence 09-30-2019 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1175299)
Soon Trump will be directly threatening the whistle blower and breaking more laws.

Oh wait he already is...

Raider Ronnie 09-30-2019 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1175286)
Yesterday Trump threatened a whistleblower, accused one or more of his top nat sec aides of being spies, demanded a House Chair be interrogated on suspicion of treason and threatened to foment a civil war if he is removed from office.

18 USC 2383

"Whoever incites... any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States... shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."



“Trump loosing it”

This coming from a guy who obsesses over him & bitches on an internet Fishing forum 24-7.
Ya, he’s loosing it.
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Jim in CT 09-30-2019 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1175293)
Four more years :devil:
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if (1) nothing more serious comes of this, and (2) the CT u.s. attorney finds rules were broken by the obama justice department to spy on the trump campaign, and (3) trump
signs a trade deal with china, and (4) warren is the nominee, IF those all happen, trump could win more electoral votes than he did in 2016.
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Pete F. 09-30-2019 10:23 AM

If you look at the Khusyaynova complaint you will find many of Trump's talking points repeated. From civil war, voter fraud, fake news, highly partisan Mueller and OLD McCain

https://assets.documentcloud.org/doc...-Complaint.pdf

A good reason to listen to the professionals and not just trust your very large brain or gut, even if you consider yourself a stable genius.

Pete F. 09-30-2019 10:25 AM

“‘There’s two people I think Putin pays: [Dana] Rohrabacher and Trump.”

— Republican Kevin McCarthy, on tape, June 15, 2016.

Jim in CT 09-30-2019 10:26 AM

why is trump suggesting adversaries are spies and traitors? doesn’t he know, as all enlightened progressives do, that’s its only noble to throw these accusations at Carter Page?
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Pete F. 09-30-2019 10:30 AM

Former GOP Sen. Jeff Flake announces support for impeachment of Trump (with some reservations) and calls on Republicans not to back Trump’s re-election: “Trust me when I say that you can go elsewhere for a job. But you cannot go elsewhere for a soul.”

Pete F. 09-30-2019 10:31 AM

House Ways & Means Chair Neal said he’s consulting lawyers about whether to make public a complaint by a federal employee about possible misconduct in the IRS’s auditing of Trump. Employee alleges “inappropriate efforts to influence” the audit process

FishermanTim 09-30-2019 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie (Post 1175301)
“Trump loosing it”

This coming from a guy who obsesses over him & bitches on an internet Fishing forum 24-7.
Ya, he’s loosing it.
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Which one is losing it???

Seems like whenever Trump does ANYTHING that the Dem's / left don't like (which is just about everything) they get "triggered" and get their collective panties in bunch.

Notice that the democrats' collective energy is being wasted SOLELY on one thing?
Now I understand why they are always losing it.


FOUR MORE YEARS!

Jim in CT 09-30-2019 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by FishermanTim (Post 1175308)
Which one is losing it???

Seems like whenever Trump does ANYTHING that the Dem's / left don't like (which is just about everything) they get "triggered" and get their collective panties in bunch.

Notice that the democrats' collective energy is being wasted SOLELY on one thing?
Now I understand why they are always losing it.


FOUR MORE YEARS!


pete will post obsessively about the republicans who are in favor of
impeachment, and says nothing about the democrats opposed to
impeachment ( yes, to Petes chagrin, they do exist, he’s just desperate to deny it).
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Pete F. 09-30-2019 10:50 AM

“For an American president to defend Moscow’s misbehavior by asking what about us? That should still shock every American. It’s a dereliction of a solemn duty. And it’s a far cry from putting ‘America First.’”

https://www.justsecurity.org/66370/t...e-oval-office/

Pete F. 09-30-2019 10:56 AM

Pompeo pushes back on Trump's beliefs of Ukraine interference:

Pompeo announces new sanctions on Russian election meddlers; implicit rebuke to Trump’s skepticism.

And he meets with him at 4 this afternoon, might be interesting.

Pete F. 09-30-2019 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1175309)
pete will post obsessively about the republicans who are in favor of
impeachment, and says nothing about the democrats opposed to
impeachment ( yes, to Petes chagrin, they do exist, he’s just desperate to deny it).
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More Republicans and fewer Democrats each day

New: Republican Rep. Mac Thornberry has announced that he will not run for reelection next year, Dallas Morning News reports, making the 13-term lawmaker the 6th Texas Republican in Congress to head for the exits ahead of the 2020 election.

Jim in CT 09-30-2019 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1175312)
More Republicans and fewer Democrats each day

How many times a day do you check?

Pete F. 09-30-2019 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1175313)
How many times a day do you check?


i agree it’s concerning. the remedy is the next election, not undoing the last one.



“As Republicans have said for decades, the United States is not a democracy but a representative republic. The purpose of the impeachment clause is precisely for the trustees of the voters in Congress to undo what the voters did.”

Pete F. 09-30-2019 11:08 AM

GOP Congressman Will Plead Guilty in Insider-Trading Case

Collins was first member of Congress to back Trump in 2016

He's losing them one way or another.

Jim in CT 09-30-2019 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1175315)
“As Republicans have said for decades, the United States is not a democracy but a representative republic. The purpose of the impeachment clause is precisely for the trustees of the voters in Congress to undo what the voters did.”

agreed, when there is an impeachable offense. “because i hate his guts”, and “because he humiliated our side
by beating the unbeatable hilary”, don’t qualify.
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Pete F. 09-30-2019 11:12 AM

What we know:
1 Russia hacked the DNC and leaked the emails.
2 Russia hacked the RNC and never leaked the emails.
3 The GOP never Trumpers (McCarthy) jump on the Trump wagon
What does Russia have? What is the level of corruption found?

Jim in CT 09-30-2019 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1175318)
What we know:
1 Russia hacked the DNC and leaked the emails.
2 Russia hacked the RNC and never leaked the emails.
3 The GOP never Trumpers (McCarthy) jump on the Trump wagon
What does Russia have? What is the level of corruption found?

here’s a question no one asks. yes, russia hacked and released the emails. but is
anyone saying the emails
aren’t real?

if the emails suggest hilary acted in a way, which if word got out could
harm her in the election, then isn’t the real story why she was engaging in that behavior, rather than who told us about it?

secure the systems, fine. but if hilary wasn’t acting unethically, there’s be no impact of releasing the emails. if the media would
do its job, we would
have already known about what was in those emails.

if she lost votes because russia exposed slimy things she truly did, that’s her fault. isn’t it?
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Pete F. 09-30-2019 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1175317)
agreed, when there is an impeachable offense. “because i hate his guts”, and “because he humiliated our side
by beating the unbeatable hilary”, don’t qualify.
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Jim, the Ukraine thing is just the tip of the iceberg. Spinning it into being driven by personal grievances is using the Russian divisive playbook. I have not seen any Democratic Party leadership comments resembling your quotes.

Here is where I think it should head next, along with the other buried documents. Denigrating the FBI and CIA for years and then having them find out you were lying to them is not recommended.

Benjamin Wittes in Lawfare

President Trump told two senior Russian officials in a 2017 Oval Office meeting that he was unconcerned about Moscow’s interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election because the United States did the same in other countries, an assertion that prompted alarmed White House officials to limit access to the remarks to an unusually small number of people, according to three former officials with knowledge of the matter.

The comments, which have not been previously reported, were part of a now-infamous meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, in which Trump revealed highly classified information that exposed a source of intelligence on the Islamic State. He also said during the meeting that firing FBI Director James B. Comey the previous day had relieved “great pressure” on him.

A memorandum summarizing the meeting was limited to a few officials with the highest security clearances in an attempt to keep the president’s comments from being disclosed publicly, according to the former officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive matters.

Shortly after the story broke, I received a message from a person directly involved with the FBI’s decision to open a counterintelligence and obstruction investigation of President Trump in the immediate aftermath of the firing of FBI Director James Comey. To say this person, who had clearly learned about the matter for the first time from the Post, was angered by the story would be to understate the matter.

The message read in relevant part: “None of us had any idea. Multiple people had opportunity and patriotic reason to tell us. Instead, silence.”

Pete F. 09-30-2019 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1175319)
here’s a question no one asks. yes, russia hacked and released the emails. but is
anyone saying the emails
aren’t real?

if the emails suggest hilary acted in a way, which if word got out could
harm her in the election, then isn’t the real story why she was engaging in that behavior, rather than who told us about it?

secure the systems, fine. but if hilary wasn’t acting unethically, there’s be no impact of releasing the emails. if the media would
do its job, we would
have already known about what was in those emails.

if she lost votes because russia exposed slimy things she truly did, that’s her fault. isn’t it?
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Next, will you suggest we thank Russia and invite anyone to interfere in our elections because it is somehow deserved.

But you missed the point

What we know:
1 Russia hacked the DNC and leaked the emails.
2 Russia hacked the RNC and never leaked the emails.
3 The GOP never Trumpers (McCarthy) jump on the Trump wagon
What does Russia have? What is the level of corruption found?

Jim in CT 09-30-2019 11:35 AM

pete, so when hilary gets caught being unethical, you ignore what she did and focus on how the story broke. do i have that right?
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Jim in CT 09-30-2019 11:36 AM

tip of the iceberg? how do you know?
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Nebe 09-30-2019 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1175323)
pete, so when hilary gets caught being unethical, you ignore what she did and focus on how the story broke. do i have that right?
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Here we go again. BUTTERYMALES!!!!!
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PaulS 09-30-2019 12:09 PM

What did Hillary do that was unethical?

Jim in CT 09-30-2019 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1175325)
Here we go again. BUTTERYMALES!!!!!
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pete brought up russia’s leaking her emails, not me.

i’ll ask you, if russia leaked emails
that said trump did unethical
things, and the emails were accurate,,would you be more concerned about what trump did, or with the fact that russia broke the story?

is anyone denying the accuracy of what was in those emails?
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Jim in CT 09-30-2019 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1175326)
What did Hillary do that was unethical?

i don’t even know! but your side
keeps saying that revealing the emails, helped cost her the election. so i presume
something was in there, right? if the leaked emails were about yoga and chelsea’s wedding, no one would be saying it impacted the election.

pete claimed that russia’s leaking the emails, tilted the election in favor of trump. that necessarily means, that what was in the emails, hurt hilary. right?
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PaulS 09-30-2019 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1175328)
i don’t even know! but your side
keeps saying that revealing the emails, helped cost her the election. so i presume
something was in there, right? if the leaked emails were about yoga and chelsea’s wedding, no one would be saying it impacted the election.

pete claimed that russia’s leaking the emails, tilted the election in favor of trump. that necessarily means, that what was in the emails, hurt hilary. right?
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I asked a serious question. You said "so when hilary gets caught being unethical, you ignore what she did and focus on how the story broke. do i have that right?" So I asked bc I wanted to find out what she did.

Unlike you I don't have "a side" and have prob. still voted for more Presidential candidates with Republican after their name than I have for Democrats.

Pete F. 09-30-2019 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1175323)
pete, so when hilary gets caught being unethical, you ignore what she did and focus on how the story broke. do i have that right?
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I didn't bring up Hillary
"Russia hacked the DNC and leaked the emails."
Does that say Hillary's emails?

You did and now you are lost in Hillarian rage again, I see.
While you and Trump apparently do not realize it, she did not win. What threat to our democracy does she pose at this point?

Here's the thing that should concern you and other Trumplicans

Russia hacked the RNC and never leaked the emails.

The GOP never Trumpers (McCarthy among them) jumped on the Trump wagon

What does Russia have on the Republicans?

What level of corruption exists to be found in the republican leadership?

Of course there is none on the right, it only exists on the left.

Anyone who would suggest otherwise must be wearing a tinfoil hat.

Jim in CT 09-30-2019 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1175329)
I asked a serious question. You said "so when hilary gets caught being unethical, you ignore what she did and focus on how the story broke. do i have that right?" So I asked bc I wanted to find out what she did.

Unlike you I don't have "a side" and have prob. still voted for more Presidential candidates with Republican after their name than I have for Democrats.

you did ask a serious question. i don’t know the answer, and admitted that. i never claimed
i had knowledge of what was in the emails.

So pete says that the leaking of the emails hurt her chances of getting elected. From that, i assume
that means there was something bad in the emails.

you disagree?

so Pete says that public knowledge of the emails harmed
her chances of winning, and you don’t concede that means the emails made her look bad?

this is great...
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Jim in CT 09-30-2019 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1175329)

Unlike you I don't have "a side" and have prob. still voted for more Presidential candidates with Republican after their name than I have for Democrats.

right, right.
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Jim in CT 09-30-2019 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1175330)
I didn't bring up Hillary
"Russia hacked the DNC and leaked the emails."
Does that say Hillary's emails?

You did and now you are lost in Hillarian rage again, I see.
While you and Trump apparently do not realize it, she did not win. What threat to our democracy does she pose at this point?

Here's the thing that should concern you and other Trumplicans

Russia hacked the RNC and never leaked the emails.

The GOP never Trumpers (McCarthy among them) jumped on the Trump wagon

What does Russia have on the Republicans?

What level of corruption exists to be found in the republican leadership?

Of course there is none on the right, it only exists on the left.

Anyone who would suggest otherwise must be wearing a tinfoil hat.

oh. so which emails were you referring to?

i’ve heard a million times that the leaked Podesta emails
hurt hilary in the election. but you’re saying the emails
don’t reveal anything damaging to her?

hilary is wondering in the woods alone babbling like an idiot, i spend no time thinking of her.
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