MSNBC host says vile things aboput Gov Palin
 

SO a guy who has his own show on MSNBC, said that Palin deserves to have someone deficate and urinate in her mouth. Look it up, that's what he said. This was not a moment where he temporariy lost control of himself, either. These were scripted remarks, read off a teleprompter, with graphics and text on the screen, menaing that the producer knew this was coming and gave it the green light.

The man has not been suspended nor fired. Neither MSNBC, nor NBC, have made any statement. The host apologized.

I thought it was my side that was waging "war on women" (despite the fact that liberal hero Ted Kennedy is the only one with a 'confirmed kill' in the war on women).

Where is the liberal outrage about women's rights? Where is NOW? Where is Gloria Allred rushing to defend Gov Palin?

It's also curious that Alec Balcwin (who also has a show on MSNBC) was suspended by the network for using a homosexual slur towards a photographer, and he did that on his free time, not on air. Seems a wee bit inconsistent to me. I can only conclude that NBC has no issue with what the man said.

Classy!

Nice, real nice ! This is what it's coming to?
Desperation for an audience, any audience.
Why not Jerry Springer as an anchor man?

Look at the person that said that....he is vile....comes from a country that hates women...treats them worse then cattle ...keeps them un educated.

he must be from the "gold Coast" then

Sarah is as SWEET as honey :grins:

Once you realize that cable news networks are geared towards entertainment and ratings based advertisement revenue you begin to realize that it's all a big joke.
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Too bad 90% of Obama voters didn't realize that.
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The thing is, MSNBC doesn't get ratings. No one watches it, and they know that. So they aren't doing it for ratings, they are doing it purely for hate's sake. Directed, in this case, at a woman who has enough compassion and empathy to love and raise a child with Downs Syndrome. God knows that most liberal women would have made a different choice.

Palin has endured more viscious personal attacke sthan any politician in my lifetime, yet liberals claim to be the side that cares about women. These people have no shame, none whatsoever.

Damn skippy she is. They used to have bumper stickers in Alaska that said "Alaska: coldest state, hottest governor".

[Quote=FlyRod] Look at the person that said that....he is vile....comes from a country that hates women...treats them worse then cattle ...keeps them un educated. [Quote]

The U.K.?

Bashir is a scum bag who stirs the pot on purpose. cant/wont watch his show or Al Sharptons, as I find they usually lack and real substance and focus on the noise of politics. I find Bashir condescending and a blind idealog. That being said, this is no worse than the crap that folks like Ann Coulter or Alex Jones, who probably have similar or larger audiences of influences than Bashir.

Give me a #^&#^&#^&#^&ing break. wah, only the left says evil things. Nothing is EVER said bad about the current president, right? No one questions where he came from, or his motivations, or his hatred of his country? Palin is a grand-stander, period. She bailed out of her term as governor to make money, and hell, won't even go on O'Rielly b/c he might disagree with her and she'd have to defend her self.


Probably one of the most disrespectful thing you have ever said about liberals. You are right, most liberal women would have gone the infanticide route... :wall:

[QUOTE=RIROCKHOUND;1022338][Quote=FlyRod] Look at the person that said that....he is vile....comes from a country that hates women...treats them worse then cattle ...keeps them un educated. "Give me a #^&#^&#^&#^&ing break. wah, only the left says evil things. Nothing is EVER said bad about the current president"

Excuse me, give me the break. I never, ever said that conservatives never stoop to that level. What I said, and I am correct, is that your side took mud-slinging to new heights (or depths, more accurately) with Sarah Palin. My favorite, they said that her Down's Syndrome child was not actually her child, but rather the child of her daughter. You tell me, when did conservatives use a mentally challenged child as club to beat their political opponents with? I'm all ears...They went after her clothes, her family, her children. I've never seen it before or since...

I deon't "question" Obama's loathing for what this country stands for, because there is no longer any quyestion about the issue...he hates what we stand for. His wife hates this country (not proud of it till he got the nomination), his spiritual mentor is a deranged lunatic who hates the country, and his political mentor (Bill Ayers) is a lunatic who clearly hates the country. I say that, I support it with irrefutable evidence, so it's not nearly as vile as going after a Downs Syndrome baby for Chrissakes.

I was not a Palin fan, by the way, not as a VP candidate. That said, the democrat attacks were dispicable (the personal and family attacks...questioning her abilities and policies is obviously fair game).

"She bailed out of her term as governor to make money, and hell, won't even go on O'Rielly b/c he might disagree with her "

Those are absolutely fair, legitimate criticisms.

"You are right, most liberal women would have gone the infanticide route... "

Damn right they would have., You deny that? Liberal women aren't more likely to choose abortion of a Downs syndrome baby than conservative women? You deny that? Really?

"Palin is a grand-stander, period"

Yes, that's why she chose to raise all of her kids without domestic help, because she is a grandstander. That's why she took on the challengs of raising a special needs child, one of the most difficult, gut-wrenching challenges in the entire human experience. she only took that on because she is a grandstander. When she got picked, she had the highest approval ratings of all 50 governors...that doesn't imply that she has any abilities, nope, she only got that ranking because of her grandstanding. Nothing more.

Is she a grandstander? Sure. Is that "all" she is? Hell, no.

[QUOTE=RIROCKHOUND;1022338]I want to be clear on this...if I say that a Downs syndrome fetus has abetter chance of survival if his mother is conservative rather than liberal...you disagree with that? You deny that liberal women are mor likely to choose abortion than conservative women? Please tell me, on what basis would you disagree with my statement?

[QUOTE=Jim in CT;1022349]I think the argument is kind of off putting and in poor taste in general. The whole subject of abortion is extremely personal to many. To add a wrinkle like that is in poor taste. I agree with many of your view points but this is over the top.
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[QUOTE=Jackbass;1022353]I absolutely concede it's a touchy issue that strikes a nerve with many. What I think is more over the top, is a policial side that has no issue with using that little boy as a club to beat his mother with, just because she was polling well when she was first picked. She's not running for anything now, I can't see how she's a threat to liberalsim, but they still hate her, and 'hate' is an drastic understatement.

And if the pro-abortion crowd feels like they are being insulted when someone like me calls them pro-abortion, I cannot help but wonder...if they take that categorization as an insult, why do they support it? I feel clean and proud to be accurately categorized by my position on this issue. If I was ashamed of what I believed, I'd change my beliefs.

[QUOTE=RIROCKHOUND;1022338]I agree with you, but this is about more than Bashir. He was not disciplined. Neither MSNBC nor NBC, as far as I know, has made any statement denouncing what Bashir said. There is only one way to interpret that, and that is that NBC isn't concerned with what he said. So NBC is tacitly coimplicit in this, if not explicitly complicit. NBC is a major, mainstream network. They paid this guy to make that statement.

I have Alaskan Tepee fantasy's about her ....
she's wearing nothing and rolled up in a polar bear rug
like a juicy burrito.... after sex we go Caribou hunting. lol

Jim, I know this will be hard but you really should try avoiding the word "they" as I'm not sure it means what you think it means.
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Jim,

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...n-remarks?lite

Without your outrage this would never have happened. I've heard up until this post they (the liberal illuminati) were considering him for knighthood.
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Apparently the MSNBC president considered him deserving of accolades. He thanked Bashir for 3 GREAT years at MSNBC. And he said that Bashir is a good man and a RESPECTED colleague, and wished him the Best.

I like reading the comments that often follow these articles. Those that followed this article, most of which I assume are viewers of MSNBC, reflected a similar type of vileness or ad hoc lack of critical thinking as Bashir's self-professed "ill-judged comments." After about 40 of them, It was enough, judging the quality of MSNBC viewers, to wonder if the whole network should resign.

Bashir was angered that Palin compared debt to slavery. Apparently, it's OK for Bashir to use a slavery analogy when denouncing George Bush. It's OK for Bashir to do it, but not Palin, got it...

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journal...He-Be-Promoted

he might have been the sacrificial lamb where they planned
the whole derogatory flaming of SWEET_heart Sarah
to silence her mouth ( ie credibility) and Bashir already had plans to leave.
it appears the presidential campaign is in full swing of sh_ it eating
and mud slinging

What I said, and I was correct, was that neither MSNBC, nor NBC, publicly denounced what he said. Yet those networks perpetuate the myth that my side is waging a war on women.

Spin that however you like.

Detbuch is correct, the statement by MSNBC is exactly what you would expect if Bashir retired at the top of his game. Not one word of apology for the repugnant bile that passes for reasoned commentary at the asylum known as MSNBC.

"wonder if the whole network should resign"

As ugly as that network is, they get no ratings, so they do no real damage. The nightime lineup is one freak show after another.

the FIRST two letters of this PARTICULAR NETWORK

tells you ALL you need to Know

Have you actually watched the video? It wasn't nearly as bad as I was expecting considering your hissy fit.

Over the top, yes, but it's only noteworthy because Palin is female.

-spence

It seems most irrelevant things are noteworthy only based on gender( unless your a heterosexual male)
Race ( unless your white) or religion ( unless your Christian)
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It's noteworthy because...

(1) Bashir claims that the other side is waging a war on women. Kind of ironic given the way he treated Gov Palin.

(2) Bashir took offense to the fact that Palin compared debt to slavery. Yet Bashir used the slavery analogy to denounce a Bush policy. Kind of ironic when you htink of it.

(3) NBC has made no comment.

It was beneath contempt, but not unexpected from those hatemongers.

Wow are you out of touch...

This???

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journal...He-Be-Promoted

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They kicked him out the door, don't think he left on his own. That's quite a statement.

-spence

Detbuch posted what the bigshots at MSNBC said about him. What a great job he did. Not one syllable about what he said. Zip..

"Wow are you out of touch..."

OK, you deny that liberals claim conservatives are waging a war on women. You deny that, and I am the one who is out of touch. Is that about right?

It's called allowing a somewhat graceful exit after an awkward moment.

Again you abuse the concept of "they". A remark by one person doesn't constitute "liberals". You're mixing up your singular and plural.

Perhaps your grammar is a bad as your math :uhuh:

Also, you ignored my video link.

-spence

lets bash Bashir :happy:

According to him it does. Unless of course you find the exact comment from a Cons. and point it out. Then Jim's next post starts with "Here is the difference....."

"It's called allowing a somewhat graceful exit after an awkward moment."

It wasn't akward, it was putrid.

I'll accept your categorization of allowing a graceful exit. But sometimes, when someone does something so unacceptable, they don't deserve a graceful exit. We can disagree on whether or not his comments rise to that level.

Why didn't they allow Alec Baldwin the same chance to make a graceful exit? After all, Baldwin merely made a spontaneous comment on his own time. Bashir made a scripted, premeditated comment on the air. The reason for the preferential treatment is that homosexuals are a protected class to liberals, while conservative women are to be attacked at all costs.

You still haven't commented (big suprise) on the fact that neither NBC nor MSNBC have made a single statement, other to to tell us whet a great host he was. Not one word about how that kind of hate has no business in civilized discussion.

A remark by one person does not constitute an agenda. When that remark is hammered home by every liberal media outlet, and it is never challenged by anyone on the left, then it bvecomes fair.

If you get so offended by being characterized as believeing in the core beliefs of liberalism, then perhaps you should ask why you seem to agree with liberals on every single issue that has been discussed here. When I am described as pro-life, pro-charity, pro-strong national defense, pro-free market, I don't get defensive. If I felt like I was being insulted by being described thusly, I would change what I believe.

We all know that there is no one issue on which 100% of liberals agree. Many people, however, take the liberty of saying "they" instead of saying "most, but with some obvious exceptions".


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Maybe, but if so, with accolades and without mentioning the reason being his vile statement. Don't consider that being "Kicked out the door." Just shows NBC's lack of standards and not caring to be a network that is above board.

Because Baldwin's show was a novelty, he was disposable.

Bashir might I remind you actually has a pretty long resume as a credible broadcaster, even if he does like to throw bombs. Before MSNBC he served 6 years at ABC and even hosted Nightline.

He had already apologized and Palin accepted it. Your assertion that conservative women are to "be attacked at all costs" doesn't hold a lot of water...there you go whitewashing everything again.

Additionally, do you excuse Palin's remarks about slavery? Watch the video, she doesn't exactly sound intelligent.

-spence

Sarah Said she could See Russia from her house...
as i remember
Well i am Born and Bred an American but have Russian
Fingers for Her. heh heh

"Because Baldwin's show was a novelty, he was disposable."

I don't think you could categorize Bashir as a ratings monster...

"Bashir might I remind you actually has a pretty long resume as a credible broadcaster,"

I might remoind you, so did Dan Rather. Even broadcasters with pretty long resumes (unimpressive as that length might be) ought to be held to some standards, don't you agree?

"He had already apologized and Palin accepted it"

Irrelevent. Victims accept apologies all the time, that doesn't mean the case is closed.

"your assertion that conservative women are to "be attacked at all costs" doesn't hold a lot of water

I guess you had your head in the sand, or up Obama's you-know-what, during the 2008 campaign. Palin (who was a terrible candidate and thus open to all kinds of legitimate criticism) wasn't excatly treated with the respect that liberals claim to reserve for the female of the species.

"do you excuse Palin's remarks about slavery?"

She said that our kids will, in a way, be enslaved by the debt we are saddling them with. I have no issue with that statement, none whatsoever. No rational person believes that she was saying that debt is identical to slavery. Similarly, liberals like to say that the GOP is "waging war" on women, and "holding the taxpayers hostage" and things like that. It seems that liberals are very selective about when they take these statements literally.

"she doesn't exactly sound intelligent"

As opposed to the current vice president, I suppose?

If you define "intelligent" as coming across as Ivy League-polished, I agree, she aint that. But she, unlike Obama, at least appears to know that you can't add tens of millions to the rolls of health iunsurance, and increase coverage for everyone, while lowering costs by $2500 a year for the average family. I'm sure you thought Obama sounded brilliant and eloquent when he said that. Problem is, he has accomplished exactly none of that.

If the choice is a less-than-polished person with actual real-world accomplishments under their belt, or a smooth-talker who spent his career in an Ivy League faculty room...well, I think the last 5 years have convinced many of us that a Harvard degree doesn't necessarily mean one can effectively solve problems.

Here's a classic case of liberal elitism. You're right, Palin doesnt "sound" intelligent. But you know what? She was correct. We are burdening subsequent generations with staggering debt, and we are doing it in a way that doesn't give them any say in the matter. Future generation will, therefore, be forced against their will, to work for the financial benefit of others (mostly the Baby Boomers). That is irrefutable, and when viewed through that lens, I'm not sure that "enslavement" is an outlandish way to describe it. It certainly doesn't warrant the suggestion that I deserve to have someone deficate in my mouth. But as long as that kind of hate is coming from the left, you will endlessly defend it.

Spence, clearly you are more focused with the delivery and elegance of what is being said, rather than with the substance of what is being said.

And might I remind you that ABC suspended him for vile, sexist remarks he made during a dinner speech for the Asian Journalists Association...

"I’m happy to be in the midst of so many Asian babes. I’m happy that the podium covers me from the waist down." He continued and said that a speech should be "like a dress on a a beautiful woman — long enough to cover the important parts and short enough to keep your interest — like my colleague Juju’s."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Bashir

Classy!

Good riddance, time for him to rot in the ash heap.,..

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

(1) Bashir claims that the other side is waging a war on women. Kind of ironic given the way he treated Gov Palin.


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Originally Posted by spence

Wow are you out of touch...


Originally Posted by Jim in CT

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OK, you deny that liberals claim conservatives are waging a war on women. You deny that, and I am the one who is out of touch. Is that about right?



ummmm....I could cite all of the times liberal democrat leaders etc.. have used the "war on women" montra to constitute more than 'one person" but that would take a while...

that...

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