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richs 12-26-2005 09:42 PM

sluggo video
 
Nice vid Joe and Mike. How long has that been on there? :tm:

Joe 12-26-2005 09:44 PM

A couple of hours.....

Christian 12-27-2005 05:06 PM

nice. like the music too.

tattoobob 12-27-2005 06:03 PM

It will not work on my I book the stream will not play

Joe 12-27-2005 06:59 PM

I'm pretty sure I have a quicktime version - I'll post it soon along witht the small sized videos for dialup.

tlapinski 12-27-2005 08:31 PM

Cool video. I know that area... :devil:

tattoobob 12-27-2005 10:23 PM

Thanks Joe:happy:

Krispy 12-28-2005 02:52 PM

shoot, I know that rock!!

Joe 12-28-2005 03:37 PM

If you don't know the spot already there's nothing in that video that is going to lead you there. I don't know what the tv show is going to be like - I was not involved in that.
It's looking like eels will not be legal as bait in RI - I'm not sure if the word is official yet. Sluggos are going to be good sellers if they ban eels - that's why I invested in the video.

tlapinski 12-28-2005 04:43 PM

Joe, I wasn't saying the video was bad or good for that spot in the format you presented. If I didn't know where it was shot or didn't know the angler in it or had never fished it, I wouldn't even know what state it was in. Cool video none the less!

Nebe 12-28-2005 06:38 PM

great video.. i have bass fever now. :hs:

Joe 12-28-2005 07:14 PM

Did'nt mean to come on too strong Toby....I was happy that the video came out non-descript.
Glad you like it Nebe....

Nebe 12-28-2005 07:45 PM

I have a confession.. I watch charlie moore's tv show just so i can see that awesome sluggo commercial.

I bet i am not alone :hihi:

Joe, i would make a huge order now for those sluggos. I have a hunch they will be in short supply come august/sept.

Joe 12-28-2005 08:17 PM

They were in short supply last August September also. There were about 5 weeks when I could not get any.
So, yup - I will buy lots of Sluggos in advance....
There is not much money in selling Sluggos though...
Eels are what bring the surfcasters into the store - they'll buy other stuff when they are there, but if you snip out eels - you'll have a significant population that will be drastically reducing their visits.
RI's eel ban and MA's herring ban is going to really hurt the baitshops and have a significant impact on established methods. It's a disruptive event.

Nebe 12-28-2005 08:46 PM

your right. no eels will mean less visits to the B&T.

tlapinski 12-28-2005 09:16 PM

Joe, is there any way yet to buy just the Slug-go's in bulk? We all toss the stupid hooks out with the packaging. It's quite the waste.

Joe 12-28-2005 09:42 PM

No way to get the 9" Sluggos in bulk - nothing leaves the factory except in packages of three.

No price breaks for volume on my end either - that's how the Sluggo guy makes the big bucks.

The 9" baits with the factory packaging weigh 5.1oz, of that - only 3.6oz is the bait. There should be a more enviro-friendly way to package them for mail order places. Not only is the plastic heavy and large, it makes you have to ship the Sluggos in a big envelope or box. I plan on asking them if they would go for other packaging options.

Krispy 12-29-2005 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe
RI's eel ban and MA's herring ban is going to really hurt the baitshops and have a significant impact on established methods. It's a disruptive event.

And my wife thought I was a moron for freezing 40 eels at the end of the season :smash: :skulz:

RIROCKHOUND 12-29-2005 12:13 PM

Amen; sittin on ~3doz myself Krisp gonna do some riggin in march/april
Other than that I got a few other tricks up my sleave :D

RIJIMMY 12-29-2005 01:32 PM

Is the RI eel ban official? I have not heard that before. WHat if buy them in Mass and then use in RI?

cheferson 12-29-2005 01:40 PM

The link was dead, when i tried??

RIROCKHOUND 12-29-2005 02:53 PM

No its not official, but I have a bad feeling total ban or serious linits are coming

Krispy 12-29-2005 03:02 PM

If theres a ban on sale you can still use what you have or buy out of state with a reciept. At least thats how it worked in CT for herring

tynan19 12-29-2005 03:10 PM

Krispy, I was told if there is a ban it would be on possesing anything to do with eels, skins etc. Not sure anyways since it hasn't gone into effect.

Krispy 12-29-2005 04:43 PM

T19, i think your right. You could buy landlocked herring in CT and keep the reciept, that I remember. But I think theres a difference in possesion and sale, I guess the wording of the ban will be very important

RIJIMMY 12-29-2005 04:56 PM

BTW, just watched the video, nice stuff. Great job on that Joe, I hope it pays off! I am amazed at the action of the sluggo under the water. I used a rigged sluggo a few times this year and it worked well for .When does the show debut on OTW? I'd like to see the whole thing.

Joe 12-29-2005 05:22 PM

I think the show is supposed to air in January - they usually post a schedule on the OTW website.
The video is nice, but the thanks goes to Mike Laptew. I had the idea of incorporating video, but I'm not technically capable or equipped to do what he does.

cheferson 12-30-2005 09:32 AM

Is the video link dead or my computer just wont play it? Everytime i try it says the page cannot be found.

Joe 12-30-2005 01:26 PM

No Chef the links are good - so it must be you.

You may be behind a firewall - check your settings. It's a windows media file so it does not work for macs.
I ran it last night and the links were good.

cheferson 01-01-2006 06:09 PM

Nice video, got the link on your front page to play

LeCounts1099 01-02-2006 08:22 PM

Tail hook?
 
HOW important is having the second/ tail hook on the 9" Slug?? Esp. if good Bass are your only target? Joe: do you & Steve both feel the tail hook is completely necessary? Do many Bass come on that one anyway? Does the lack of a tail hook negatively affect the action at all? (doubt it)...

Joe 01-02-2006 10:13 PM

I don't think you'll miss many of the better fish without the tailhook. It is important to wrap the shank of the head hook with dacron, or braid - or something that will allow the glue to bond the hook and bait together. Steve however, I've never heard of him fishing without the second hook - he's very fast at rigging them.
Just make sure you wrap the hook shank with something before gluing. If you glue the hook without wrapping it, the bait slides down the the shank and tears. I have a bunch of pre-rigged sluggos - with two hooks and with one. They're all in a box waiting for me to do photography. The double hooked sluggos are pretty expensive though because I have to pay someone to rig them - I don't have time to rig sluggos.
I'm quite sure their are several viable ways to rig the sluggos. The videos prove that the sluggos have great action and catch fish - that was the major message. Rigging and methodologies are going to vary between regions and fishing styles, just like they do for pretty much everything we use.

Clogston29 01-03-2006 06:45 AM

Sluggo Rigging
 
I fished the 9" sluggos with a single 8/0 mustad o'shaunessy hook all this season and rarely missed fish, really missed no more than I would have with any other lure plug. I wrap the top inch or so of the hook shank with either thread or braided line (I use braid that's either left over at the end of a spool or already used and ready to be changed) and glue the sluggo to that. I think if you are going to use the single hook, using one with a long shank, such as the o'shaunessy style, is important because it puts the point further back in the body but that's just me.

I'm rigging some up with two hooks now to do a side by side comparison this season. I took some out for a test yesterday and the ones rigged with two gami octopus hooks do have alittle more action, probably because they are alittle more balanced weight wise and because the shank of the head hook is shorter allowing it to pivot more.

The main problem I'm having with rigging the two hook setup is getting the sluggo to slide over the braid after the zap-a-gap is applied. It seams to bond instantly and I can't get the head to come out as good as I'd like. It comes out better if I let the glue on the braid dry, then slide it on, then insert the zap-a-gap into the head using the little pointed applicator it comes with but I don't get quite as good of a bond. Does anybody have any advise on this? Do they make a slower setting zap-a-gap?

cheferson 01-03-2006 09:11 AM

pretty sure zap-a-gap has a slower setting glue, my pops use to build model airplanes and had all kinds of different cure times.

Nebe 01-03-2006 11:31 AM

clogston, when i rig mine i dont glue anything until its all put together. just open the hole in the sluggo where your hook is protruding and squirt some glue in there and your all set. I also dont do any glueing until i have completed a batch of about 10 or 20. Infact, i do all of the steps in groups. Usually after the 2nd or the 4th sluggo they all come out perfect.

Clogston29 01-03-2006 01:05 PM

Thanks, I'll try that tonight if I can find some more zap-a-gap on the way home

Joe 01-04-2006 08:23 AM

That Nebe - He's right again.....
:wavey:
Rig it, then push the eye and top part of the shank forward a little to expose the wrap put a little-dab-will-do-ya of Zap on....Presto all done.
Do about 30 dozen and you should be all set for the season.
I'll rig a bunch - then glue a bunch.

Nebe 01-04-2006 11:03 AM

sometimes i am right, and sometimes i am wrong.. :huh:

I make things for a living so i am always thinking of how to make things easier and faster.. What would be cool is to build a jig that would hold the sluggo and allow a rigging needle to stab the sluggo in the head and slide perfectly right out the tail where you want it. Kind of like making an arbor press into a frankenstien like sewing machine. Pull down on the lever and the needle goes through the sluggo, hook the dacron on the needle and lift up the lever and the dacron comes out the head of the sluggo... you could do one every 10 seconds.

bart 01-05-2006 12:40 PM

Joe, I'm freaking out. I need the Quicktime version. pretty please?

must suppress need to fish by living vicariously through these videos...:crying:

Mr. Sandman 01-09-2006 06:51 AM

Well done! I think you will move some sluggos in 06. All the eel and herring users will be looking for the next best thing and that is probably the sluggo. The reason eel users made so many trips to the B&T shop is they wanted fresh bait and it is easier (and less risk) for the tackle shop to keep them then the fishermen. These guys will still need stuff to fish with. I also predict a black market for eels will be around.
I gave them a serious try this year. While I still think the live eel works better a little easier to fish with (esp from a boat) and is probably a little cheaper, the slugos are easy to rig and require no special treatment to keep alive. They indeed work. Clearly Steve M has perfected using it. I think the rear hook is used just as much for weighting the back end of the sluggo as it is for taking fish.


I just hope sluggos remain in good supply this season. Can you buy a bulk pack of 100 or so at a time with some discount?


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