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Al Sharpton lies about accusing white cops of raping Tawanna Brawley. Many people claimed the Duke lacrosse players were guilty of rape. Rolling Stone magazine fabricated charges against a UVA student.
Now just because others have lied, doesn’t mean Ford is lying, she has nothing to do with these cases. But because people are sometimes willing to fabricatebthese charges, that must mean that unsubstantiated allegations aren’t enough. we need more before we ruin a mans life. How can anyone disagree? |
That's the messy thing about sexual assault, women don't feel they'll be believed so they don't speak up, there often isn't much evidence etc...and times are a lot different now then they were back then.
This is really turning into a lose lose for Trump. Either a few senators get spooked and the nomination doesn't pass or they "plow on ahead" and have to the bear the consequences of steamrolling a woman making a very serious allegation. This entire nomination was doomed from the start. |
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"This is really turning into a lose lose for Trump" So was everything else that was supposed to doom him. It's not a lose if it fires up the conservative base more than it fires up the liberal base, especially in the swing states. That's the potential downside. We will soon know. "bear the consequences of steamrolling a woman making a very serious allegation" The other possibility, is that voters see this for what it was, political exploitation by parasites on the left, at the expense of w woman making a serious accusation. I would like to see ten FBI agents look into it for a week. If they turn up supporting evidence, I don't want him there. If they turn up zilch as the 6 background checks have done, have the vote and let the snowflakes throw their tantrum. If they turn up evidence and he gets forced out, still time to get someone else in there. You're right, anything short of a full FBI investigation, and the left will say that the GOP wasn't interested in learning the truth. Not that they'd abide by the results of such an investigation if they didn't like the outcome, ask Anita Hill, wait you can't, she's on NBC telling them what it's like to be a victim, even though the FBI found zero evidence of that. |
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Depending on what happens when they speak on Thursday. Take a vote - if he gets in then run the investigation. If he's lying deal with the consequences later. If he's not lying and she is, then let the left deal with their consequences. Right now he's presumed innocent.
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But there is evidence about Thomas that nobody ever bothered with, including Joe Biden. Just like now, and remember some of the Senators are the same 37 years later, they didn't and don't really want to know. https://www.rollcall.com/news/opinio...homas-hearings http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...ce-thomas.html https://www.damemagazine.com/2018/09...ughs-template/ |
Spence, it’s also not a loss for Trump if the nomination gets withdrawn, and he nominated that female devout catholic ( Barrett or Jarrett?). the liberals should have asked themselves if having Kavanaugh on the court is the worst possible outcome for them. I’d think a brilliant, strong woman who is a rabid catholic, would be far less preferable, compared to Kavanaugh. if nothing else, Kavanaugh is an easier target, being a man. There is no way, none, that this seat isn’t filled before the new congress is sworn in. If the dems take the senate, Trump will do it in the lame duck session, and he won’t bat an eye.
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they had the hearings... time to vote because evil democrats are perverting the system... democrats have been colluding, conniving and plotting and causing mayhem....screw them:humpty: whack-a-mole is much more fun with a shotgun |
What defines someone as a RABID catholic?
Is she a Roman, Armenian, Byzantine, Coptic, Ethiopian, East Syriac (Chaldean), West Syriac, and Maronite Catholic? Is there a new church of Rabid radical extremist catholics? Abortions should be off limits but boys are...... |
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Kav has deepening public trust issues. I'd think trustworthiness in SCOTUS nominee is a key factor. |
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Should the FBI investigate?
“It would sure clear up all the questions, wouldn’t it?” Senator Lisa Murkowski-R |
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Why can't they ask their own questions? (Rhetorical) The WH should have hit the pause button immediately and let the FBI sort things out, we'd likely have moved on already. Kav going on TV last night didn't help his case much either... |
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Spence, it’s bad for the senate to bring in an expert sexual crimes prosecutor who is a female, to question both Ford and Kavanaugh? i’d think you and Ford would love that move. i doubt she wants to get questioned by a bunch of old white guys, right? why not bring in an expert who knows how to best get to the truth in these situations?
It can’t be that neither you nor Ford is interested in the truth, but rather in smear, can it? that would explain why she hasn’t asked the Md police to investigate. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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Sorry that is the way politics works, it's not pretty or nice. I said last week they should have gracefully yanked him, and put in a woman. |
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the maryland police posted something, they didn’t say the statute was up, they said something to the effect that if she asked, they’d investigate. you’re right that politics isn’t pretty or nice. but it doesn’t need to be this ugly, this regularly. i know this because i’m old enough to remember when it wasn’t. you did say to put in the woman. trump will not yank him, nor should he, with just an accusation. if that’s enough, who will ever get confirmed again? an accusation is not evidence, not even close. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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"Investigators in Montgomery County have apparently spoken with either a woman or her attorney about allegations of sexual assault against Kavanaugh that date back to his senior year of high school. Investigators have apparently spoken to multiple witnesses about the allegations. A formal complaint has not been filed. “Without a complaint, they cannot conduct a further investigation,” said Karem. “That’s the fulcrum.” In Maryland, there is no statute of limitations for rape and attempted rape. The county police and the Montgomery County prosecuting attorney’s office have said they would conduct an investigation into the case, if a complaint is filed." It's always been this ugly, you just never saw it. I've known some old politicians and had that discussion. It was done in backrooms, out of sight and the newscycle was a week, not minutes. Nobody had email, they talked and left no trace. |
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“they might be being nice about it” i bet that’s it. no, i see it. not that long ago, it wasn’t like this. Clarence Thomas got confirmed by a democrat controlled senate. it got ugly, and never returned to civilized, during bush’s presidency. it has not always been like this, not even close. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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