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Jim in CT 08-20-2022 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1231436)

White Americans are afraid of diversity and truth because they feel threatened by both.
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thinking something is stupid, and being afraid of it, arent the same thing

yes, we need you to remind us of what he truth is pete.

meanwhile wdmso says it has nothing to do with race. is that truthful?
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Pete F. 08-20-2022 12:05 PM

It’s always easy to be cool about something that’s not possible today.

The founding fathers would be like what do you mean there are catholics on the Supreme Court.
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Pete F. 08-20-2022 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1231444)
hi king something is stupid, and being afraid of not, arent the same thing

yes, we need you to remind us of what he truth is pete.

meanwhile wdmso says it has nothing to do with race. is that truthful?
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Gibberish from an imbecile
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Pete F. 08-20-2022 03:02 PM

Back to the FBI and the recovered stolen documents.

Here's the big question: who told Donald Trump what to steal, because you know the illiterate #^&#^&#^&#^& would have had no clue on his own and then, what was he going to do with them?
It’s always the money…..
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scottw 08-20-2022 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1231453)
Back to the FBI and the recovered stolen documents.

Here's the big question: who told Donald Trump what to steal, because you know the illiterate #^&#^&#^&#^& would have had no clue on his own and then, what was he going to do with them?
It’s always the money…..
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how did he steal them?...did he sneak them out of the national archives or wherever nuclear secrets are held in his pants like Sandy Berger?....don't all of these sensitive documents have chain of custody and controls....nobody was missing them for 18 months?

Pete F. 08-21-2022 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1231458)
how did he steal them?...did he sneak them out of the national archives or wherever nuclear secrets are held in his pants like Sandy Berger?....don't all of these sensitive documents have chain of custody and controls....nobody was missing them for 18 months?

Here's a timeline of the key moments from the investigation.

At the end of the Trump admin, WH counsel’s office identified roughly 2 dozen boxes containing material that had been taken to the residence over many months, that needed to be sent to the National Archives. Months later, NARA was still trying to get them.

May 2021

An official from NARA contacts Trump's team after realizing that several important documents weren't handed over before Trump left the White House. In hopes of locating the missing items, NARA lawyer Gary Stern reaches out to someone who served in the White House counsel's office under Trump, who was the point of contact for record-keeping matters. The missing documents include some of Trump's correspondence with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, as well as the map of Hurricane Dorian that Trump infamously altered with a sharpie pen.

Fall 2021

NARA grows frustrated with the slow pace of document turnover after several months of conversations with the Trump team. Stern reaches out to another Trump attorney to intervene. The archivist asks about several boxes of records that were apparently taken to Mar-a-Lago during Trump's relocation to Florida. NARA still doesn't receive the White House documents they are searching for.

January 2022

After months of discussions with Trump's team, NARA retrieves 15 boxes of Trump White House records from Mar-a-Lago. NARA says in a statement that some of the records it received at the end of Trump's administration were "torn up by former President Trump," and that White House officials had to tape them back together. Not all the torn-up documents were reconstructed, NARA says. The boxes contained some materials that were part of "special access programs," known as SAP, which is a classification that includes protocols to significantly limit who would have access to the information.

Feb. 9, 2022

News outlets report that NARA asked the Justice Department to investigate Trump's handling of White House records and whether he violated the Presidential Records Act and other laws related to classified information. The Presidential Records Act requires all records created by a sitting president to be turned over to the National Archives at the end of their administration.

Feb. 18, 2022

NARA informs the Justice Department that some of the documents retrieved from Mar-a-Lago included classified material. NARA also tells the department that, despite being warned it was illegal, Trump tore up documents while he was president, and that senior officials in the Trump administration did not properly preserve their social media messages, draft tweets and deleted tweets.

April and May 2022

On April 7, NARA publicly acknowledges for the first time that the Justice Department is involved, and news outlets report that prosecutors have launched a criminal probe into Trump's mishandling of classified documents. Around this time, FBI agents quietly interview Trump aides at Mar-a-Lago about the handling of presidential records as part of their widening investigation.

May 12, 2022

News outlets report that investigators subpoenaed NARA for access to the classified documents retrieved from Mar-a-Lago. The subpoena, which is part of the process to allow investigators to take possession of the documents from the NARA, is the first public indication of the Justice Department using a grand jury in its investigation.

June 3, 2022

Four investigators, including a top Justice Department counterintelligence official, visit Mar-a-Lago seeking more information about classified material that had been taken to Florida. The four investigators meet with Trump's attorneys and look around the basement room where the documents are being stored. Trump briefly stops by the meeting to say hello to the officials, but he does not answer any questions. During the meeting, the federal officials serve a grand jury subpoena for some of the sensitive national security documents on the premises, and they take away the subpoenaed documents.

June 8, 2022

Trump's attorneys receive a letter from federal investigators, asking them to further secure the room where documents are being stored. In response, Trump aides add a padlock to the room in the basement of Mar-a-Lago.

Aug. 8, 2022

The FBI executes a search warrant at Mar-a-Lago — a major escalation of the classified documents investigation. The search focused on the area of the club where Trump's offices and personal quarters are located. Federal agents remove boxes of material from the property. The search was the first time in American history that a former president's home was searched as part of a criminal investigation.

Aug. 11, 2022

After three days of silence, Attorney General Merrick Garland makes a brief public statement about the investigation. He reveals that he personally approved the decision to seek a search warrant, and pushes back against what he called "unfounded attacks on the professionalism of the FBI and Justice Department." Garland also announces that the Justice Department will ask a judge to unseal some of the search warrant documents, for the sake of transparency. Trump says in a late-night post on his Truth Social platform that he will "not oppose the release of documents" related to the search.
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scottw 08-21-2022 08:54 AM

So when and how did he steal the nuclear secrets he was trying to sell?
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Pete F. 08-21-2022 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1231472)
So when and how did he steal the nuclear secrets he was trying to sell?
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WH Counsel had told COS Meadows that material in boxes in the residence needed to be sent to the archives--but Trump insisted at least some of it, including documents marked highly classified, be shipped to Florida.

Trump knew he was breaking the law.
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Pete F. 08-21-2022 10:13 AM

If you think during 19 months, Trump only stored classified documents and didn’t share them with anyone else, I have a bridge to sell you.
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scottw 08-21-2022 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1231479)
If you think during 19 months, Trump only stored classified documents and didn’t share them with anyone else, I have a bridge and pee tapes and rape trains to sell you.
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fixed it:)

Jim in CT 08-21-2022 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1231481)
fixed it:)

the left used russian sources to fabricate lies about trump, then they had the chutzpah to accuse him of all things, of Russian collusion. that’s not projecting.
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Pete F. 08-21-2022 01:19 PM

Meanwhile in Russia: Putin's mouthpieces on state TV are taunting America about "Top Secret" documents sought during the raid of Trump's estate, which they claim had to do with the newest nuclear weapons developed by the US and gleefully imply that Moscow already got to see them.
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Pete F. 08-21-2022 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1231483)
the left used russian sources to fabricate lies about trump, then they had the chutzpah to accuse him of all things, of Russian collusion. that’s not projecting.
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So 199 criminal charges, 37 indictments or guilty pleas, & 5 prison sentences.

And pardons for Trump coconspirators: Michael Flynn, Paul Manafort, Roger Stone & more.

Saying the Trump Russia investigation was a hoax or discredit it as a witch hunt is ridiculous on its face.

None of the Russian investigation was a hoax, there was good reason for the FBI to be suspicious and there was good reason to open an investigation.
Treating it as riddled with bias depends on elevating nonessential questions as essential and isolated problems as systemic.

Russia spent $200M in Facebook ads in 2016 to help Trump win. That’s not a hoax. It’s a fact.

37 Indictments. Clearly demonstrated collusion between Trump campaign & Russia state actors. Obstruction of justice.

Trump's campaign chairman Paul Manafort -- who had spent a decade advising Yanukovych in Ukraine -- collaborated in 2016 with a Russian spy on a secret plan for Trump to help Russia control eastern Ukraine.

Manafort has admitted he shared internal polling data with Russian Agents.

We will find more because, the DOJ improperly redacted a memo to AG Barr that related to whether former President Trump obstructed the special counsel probe into his campaign's dealings with Russia during the 2016 presidential election, a unanimous DC Circ. panel just ruled.
In short: Barr lied about the Mueller investigation, and then he lied about his lies (according to the federal district court and now to the court of appeals).
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scottw 08-21-2022 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1231492)
Meanwhile in Russia: Putin's mouthpieces on state TV are taunting America about "Top Secret" documents sought during the raid of Trump's estate, which they claim had to do with the newest nuclear weapons developed by the US and gleefully imply that Moscow already got to see them.
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Putin's misinformation mouthpieces are probably telling the truth....

Pete F. 08-21-2022 02:41 PM

The party of 'law and order' wants to defund the FBI & abolish the IRS. It's almost like they were never really about a lawful society but protecting mediocre white collar criminality.
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Pete F. 08-21-2022 02:53 PM

This is who today's GOP are. This is NOT democracy, this is fascism.

"GOP Candidate Says FBI Agents Would Be Put In 'Body Bag' If His Home Were Searched"

Sarasota businessman Martin Hyde defended his remarks.
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wdmso 08-21-2022 04:46 PM

GOP candidate says nation's top cop should be executed (then says he's kidding)
Carl Paladino reportedly said Attorney General Merrick Garland should probably be executed.

Not sure why Trumps supporters don’t see a trend

Of course because he said

(says he's kidding). That will be his defense Just like Trumps defenders who say ( he said go peacefully) and only hear that


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wdmso 08-22-2022 10:11 AM

And the story changes Again about the raid I have lost track is this the 5th version ?

The FBI's raid at former President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate took place because there were "documents in there that need to be made public, that were never released to the public," concerning the investigation into the Russia allegations that were made about him, former Department of Defense chief of staff Kash Patel

wdmso 08-22-2022 02:51 PM

Another GOP excuse

Representative Mike Turner, an Ohio Republican, said Sunday that former President Donald Trump allegedly kept classified White House documents at his Mar-a-Lago residence to write his memoirs.:laugha:

Pete F. 08-22-2022 07:46 PM

It’s really simple

1. It's a crime to have these documents.
2. He had the documents
3. THERE IS NO 3, NO NEED TO OVERCOMPLICATE THIS. READ 1 AND 2 AGAIN

Trump is representing HIMSELF, with no lawyer at all, in his case against the United States regarding the search of Mar-a-Lago and recovery of government records.

The legal term is “pro se” - for himself.

He could not find anyone to represent him.

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scottw 08-22-2022 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1231610)

It’s really simple


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I wonder when they will arrest him?

Pete F. 08-22-2022 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1231612)
I wonder when they will arrest him?

I’m in the mood for trump indictment.
How about you?
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scottw 08-23-2022 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1231613)

I’m in the mood for trump indictment.
How about you?

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you have been promising one for 6 years...

Pete F. 08-23-2022 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1231619)
you have been promising one for 6 years...

The wheels of justice turn slowly, but grind exceedingly fine.

Trump-Russia a hoax? Except for the part where candidate Trump publicly beseeched Russian intelligence to purloin and publish his opponent's emails - and then Russia intelligence immediately did so.
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scottw 08-23-2022 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1231624)

The wheels of justice turn slowly...

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you've been saying that for 6 years too....

Pete F. 08-23-2022 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1231625)
you've been saying that for 6 years too....

Trump-Russia a hoax? Except for the part where Trump's campaign manager shared proprietary campaign polling information so that Russian intelligence could target Facebook advertising more effectively.
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wdmso 08-26-2022 03:43 PM

Trump also said federal law enforcement was carrying out "a total public relations subterfuge,"

sub·ter·fuge
/ˈsəbtərˌfyo͞oj/
Learn to pronounce
noun
plural noun: subterfuges
deceit used in order to achieve one's goal.

Trump and his followers are the best examples of how to try to use SUBTERFUGE to achieve one's goals

Pete F. 08-26-2022 07:04 PM

The FBI didn't ask them to "put a better lock" on the closet. They literally had video of people going in and out of a room with our most classified secrets laying around. They said to "secure" the room. This affidavit is damning. They've been lying the whole time.
Well, what else would you expect?
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wdmso 08-28-2022 10:07 AM

the commissioners took up a proposal to disconnect a recently installed cybersecurity device from the county's computer network.

The device, known as an Albert sensor, was designed to alert local governments to potential hacking attempts against their networks

Bye bye, Albert sensor," one of the commissioners quipped.

Commissioner Davis quoted from a memo that circulated among Washington state Republicans. That memo, raised a number of concerns about Albert sensors and also seemed to allude to the program being part of a left-wing conspiracy.

Yep shocking a majority Trump areas would base their choices on conspiracy’s
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wdmso 08-29-2022 03:34 PM

Trump: Declare 'Rightful Winner' or 'New Election' Over FBI Meddling


Former President Donald Trump is taking his case against FBI "election interference" to the American people — and to a new level — by demanding to be declared the "rightful winner" or "have a new election."

"So now it comes out, conclusively, that the FBI BURIED THE HUNTER BIDEN LAPTOP STORY BEFORE THE ELECTION knowing that, if they didn't, 'Trump would have easily won the 2020 Presidential Election,'" Trump wrote Monday in Truth Social.

"This is massive FRAUD & ELECTION INTERFERENCE at a level never seen before in our country."


Trump added the "remedy" for the 2020 presidential election meddling should be to "declare the rightful winner" or, a minimum, hold a "new election."


can't wait for the faithful to rush to his defense

Spoken like the fascist Biden claimed he and his maga followers are

Pete F. 09-02-2022 04:46 AM

“In a monumental irony, both Julian Assange…and Edward Snowden…stand charged with the very same crimes that are likely to be brought against Mr. Trump. On both Mr. Assange and Mr. Snowden, Mr. Trump argued that they should be executed.”
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scottw 09-02-2022 05:24 AM

from what I've read, if they charge him with something it will be obstruction...which I don't believe carries the death penalty..I hope you won't be too disappointed pete

Jim in CT 09-02-2022 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1232226)
from what I've read, if they charge him with something it will be obstruction...which I don't believe carries the death penalty..I hope you won't be too disappointed pete

don’t be too sure, remember that trespassing was a capital offense for small women on january 6.

wdmso 09-02-2022 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1232231)
don’t be too sure, remember that trespassing was a capital offense for small women on january 6.

We can’t be pro-insurrectionist and pro-American. They’re incompatible,

But you are trying to do both. Why
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Jim in CT 09-02-2022 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1232245)
We can’t be pro-insurrectionist and pro-American. They’re incompatible,

But you are trying to do both. Why
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I agree 100% with what you said. But once again, you’re smiling the goalposts

Wayne, on planet earth where we live, there videos of capital police welcoming the trespassers in, talking to them causally, being polite. then point being, many people
there has no insurrectionist intentions. which is why it’s not a good idea to shoot first and ask questions later, which is what this cop testified that he did, when he admitted he could t see her hands.

if she was a black democrat, her life would matter.

Pete F. 09-02-2022 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1232254)
I agree 100% with what you said. But once again, you’re smiling the goalposts

Wayne, on planet earth where we live, there videos of capital police welcoming the trespassers in, talking to them causally, being polite. then point being, many people
there has no insurrectionist intentions. which is why it’s not a good idea to shoot first and ask questions later, which is what this cop testified that he did, when he admitted he could t see her hands.

if she was a black democrat, her life would matter.

Who said her life didn’t matter, other than you?
Maybe you should have told her to just do as the police asked, then she wouldn’t have been shot?

The “tourists” on January 6th spread #^&#^&#^&#^& on the walls, injured more than 150 police officers, erected a gallows and more while the sitting President watched on TV and did nothing.

Next you’ll be telling us how the Civil war was about states rights and that blacks were better off as slaves.
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wdmso 09-08-2022 07:40 AM

These are the kinda of people the Republicans want as their voters

When the FBI searched former President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago home in early August, it took less than a day for far-right internet personality Jack Posobiec to summon Epstein's ghost. "We now know the judge who signed off on the Mar-a-Lago raid was Jeffrey Epstein's lawyer. Don't question it!" Posobiec posted

Within days, the false claim took off in far-right circles, drawing the attention of Fox News, which later had to issue a clarification for airing an edited picture that falsely showed Reinhart next to Ghislaine Maxwell, who was convicted as an accomplice to many of Epstein's crimes.


Edited out
Epstein's ties to Trump himself are generally left unspoken in extremist, fringe communities

These are tools in the shed of people who are, for lack of a better word, fascist propagandists who understand how to use this friend versus enemy binary,"

But actual facts and actual action are a hoax to you guessed it Republicans

Pete F. 09-08-2022 04:22 PM

Congratulations to Tom Cotton to be the first Republican Senator to demand that DOJ throw the book at Donald Trump for stealing our nation's secrets. A brave stand, but principled.

“ A large reason for the crime wave is that Democrats won't treat criminals like the criminals they are.”
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PaulS 09-08-2022 05:25 PM

You knew it had to happen eventually right 😁
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wdmso 09-09-2022 03:22 PM

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