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Jim in CT 02-24-2022 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1223123)
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So yes, Obama, the 80s had been calling the entire time, leaving all kinds of calling cards. We'll be lucky to live through it and the world will be vastly different in the next decade.

oh, so you’re a racist….
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JohnR 02-24-2022 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1223125)
oh, so you’re a racist….
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I'm getting used to being called that. DILLIGAF?

PaulS 02-24-2022 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1223111)
so effing stupid.

conservatives have been shown to be slightly more charitable than liberals, despite being less wealthy.and much of that goes to their churches and private schools as we've discussed many, many times.

this is based on data, been discussed here many many times.

how does that reconcile with your nonsensical babble?

you’re a complete utter waste of time.

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/o...21kristof.html

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NM

PaulS 02-24-2022 08:12 AM

And pray for the people of Ukraine.

JohnR 02-24-2022 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1223129)
And pray for the people of Ukraine.




Yes.

Jim in CT 02-24-2022 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1223128)
NM

"and much of that goes to their churches and private schools "

And much of what gets donated to churches, goes to help the needy. I'm sorry if that's going too fast for you.

If you remove every cent that conservatives give to churches, what would it show, Paul? Would it show that conservatives don't give anything? Or would it, at worst, show that conservatives are nearly as generous as liberals?

The Catholic Church is the largest non-governmental source of charitable services, in the world, I believe. Giving to churches, isn't mutually exclusive from giving to charity.

And I'm sure plenty of liberal donations go to the massive endowments at elite universities who don't need the money, and aren't spending it to help anybody. But you don't care about that.

Just show me some evidence, any evidence, that conservatives stop caring after a baby is born?

I'll wait.

Jim in CT 02-24-2022 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1223127)
I'm getting used to being called that. DILLIGAF?

You called this before I heard a single person anywhere call it.

I was sure he was bluffing to strike a deal where we didn't let Ukraine in NATO. I was 100% wrong once again.

PaulS 02-24-2022 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1223131)
"and much of that goes to their churches and private schools "

And much of what gets donated to churches, goes to help the needy. I'm sorry if that's going too fast for you.

If you remove every cent that conservatives give to churches, what would it show, Paul? Would it show that conservatives don't give anything?You're reading comprehension sucks. Or would it, at worst, show that conservatives are nearly as generous as liberals?But you're the idiot who constantly states that conservatives are more generous than liberals you idiot, not me or anyone else here.

The Catholic Church is the largest non-governmental source of charitable services, in the world, I believe. Giving to churches, isn't mutually exclusive from giving to charity.Did anyone say it was you idiot?

And I'm sure plenty of liberal donations go to the massive endowments at elite universities who don't need the money, and aren't spending it to help anybody. But you don't care about that. Endowments are used to help keep tuiton down you idiot.

Just show me some evidence, any evidence, that conservatives stop caring after a baby is born?Their actions show it everyday. The idea that liberals want Blacks (and it is amazing how much you focus on blacks here - or use the word "urban" which to you means the same) to have more babies so they can "make" more money off the babies show loud and clear that you are a scummy person.

I'll wait.

Ok here it. When I donate my dues to my church and they paint the walls it isn't benefiting poor people. When I donate my dues to my church and they build a gym it isn't benefiting poor people.

How's that you idiot?

wdmso 02-24-2022 08:38 AM

Ric Grenell: Biden Failed, Diplomacy Failed


Germany, President Joe Biden, and his State Department all share in the blame, Grenell told Schmitt

and not a single world of criticism for Putin :btu:

Jim in CT 02-24-2022 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1223133)
Ok here it. When I donate my dues to my church and they paint the walls it isn't benefiting poor people. When I donate my dues to my church and they build a gym it isn't benefiting poor people.

How's that you idiot?

"you're the idiot who constantly states that conservatives are more generous than liberals you idiot, not me or anyone else here."

The data shows it to be true, and I post it when someone makes the absurd claim that conservatives don't care about helping people. It's a fairly on-point response.

Again, I am sorry that you missed that, I will try to slow down for you.

Jim in CT 02-24-2022 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1223133)
Ok here it. When I donate my dues to my church and they paint the walls it isn't benefiting poor people. When I donate my dues to my church and they build a gym it isn't benefiting poor people.

How's that you idiot?

Please tell me which good charitable organizations, have no expenses?

Good lord man...

If your church is hoarding its donations instead of using them to help people, that's an issue for your church.

wdmso 02-24-2022 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1223132)
You called this before I heard a single person anywhere call it.

I was sure he was bluffing to strike a deal where we didn't let Ukraine in NATO. I was 100% wrong once again.

Do you not think the administration or Nato didn't figure Putin was going to Invade they Knew .. but diplomacy must run its course

But again we get the unusual response from Republican and Conservatives "weakness " besides a military response I am not sure what they expect the U.S.A or the world to do besides what they did and are now doing ..

and none of them seem to be laying out What they would be doing .

Jim in CT 02-24-2022 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1223134)
Ric Grenell: Biden Failed, Diplomacy Failed


Germany, President Joe Biden, and his State Department all share in the blame, Grenell told Schmitt

and not a single world of criticism for Putin :btu:

Grenell...

"You've got to have consequences for bad behavior and I would arm the Ukrainians

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...trump_did.html

PaulS 02-24-2022 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1223135)
"you're the idiot who constantly states that conservatives are more generous than liberals you idiot, not me or anyone else here."

The data shows it to be true, and I post it when someone makes the absurd claim that conservatives don't care about helping people. It's a fairly on-point response.

Again, I am sorry that you missed that, I will try to slow down for you.

So show me a study that says conservatives are more generous when it ISN"T self serving charities. That is what matters you idiot.

PaulS 02-24-2022 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1223136)
Please tell me which good charitable organizations, have no expenses?

Good lord man...

If your church is hoarding its donations instead of using them to help people, that's an issue for your church.

So does your church have a meeting hall or anything sponsored by the church for the parishioners? That is self serving and doesn't benefit anyone other than themselves.

Jim in CT 02-24-2022 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1223140)
So show me a study that says conservatives are more generous when it ISN"T self serving charities. That is what matters you idiot.

Again, maybe your church is self serving. That sounds like an issue for you.

The data clearly shows that conservatives care plenty about people after they are born.

scottw 02-24-2022 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1223138)

Do you not think the administration or Nato didn't figure Putin was going to Invade they Knew ..

this an impressive sentence...

scottw 02-24-2022 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1223142)
Again, maybe your church is self serving. That sounds like an issue for you.

The data clearly shows that conservatives care plenty about people after they are born.

paul's church maintains it's property so all churches must be bad...government never wastes money intended to help the poor....you idiot :laughs:...

he's very snarky...

Jim in CT 02-24-2022 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1223141)
So does your church have a meeting hall or anything sponsored by the church for the parishioners? That is self serving and doesn't benefit anyone other than themselves.

For the second time, yes my church has meaningful expenses. Can you give me a list of charities that have zero expenses please?

Rent, utilities, logistics and infastructure and such cannot be paid for with hugs and fairy dust, I am sorry to break that to you, I assumed even you already knew that. Obviously I was wrong.

scottw 02-24-2022 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1223123)

I also said Xi might go after Taiwan, hope that part is not flushed out.

next....

Jim in CT 02-24-2022 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1223144)
paul's church maintains it's property so all churches must be bad...
...

That's literally his entire argument.

The question for me is, why bother. There is no answer, other than there's no fishing to be done yet...

JohnR 02-24-2022 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1223132)
You called this before I heard a single person anywhere call it.

I was sure he was bluffing to strike a deal where we didn't let Ukraine in NATO. I was 100% wrong once again.




The likelihood and motive has been clear as day for years. I did not come up with any of this but I follow people smarter than me that have been warning of the increasing danger of this since 2008.

It merely depended on a sliding scale of reduced capability of the members of NATO, particularity the US and Germany, and the increased of capability of RUS/PRC. It also required the same inversion of will.

scottw 02-24-2022 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1223133)

When I donate my dues to my church and they build a gym it isn't benefiting poor people.

How's that you idiot?

poor people don't use gyms?

scottw 02-24-2022 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1223147)
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there's no fishing to be done yet...

soon...

Jim in CT 02-24-2022 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1223138)
Do you not think the administration or Nato didn't figure Putin was going to Invade they Knew .. but diplomacy must run its course

But again we get the unusual response from Republican and Conservatives "weakness " besides a military response I am not sure what they expect the U.S.A or the world to do besides what they did and are now doing ..

and none of them seem to be laying out What they would be doing .

Other than arming Ukraine earlier, I can't think of anything.

But again, Putin had some reason to not do this when Trump was president, and to feel like now is the time. Maybe he senses dementia and weakness like most people do, and that's what he's counting on.

I can't think of a reason why Putin is doing this now, that's not a criticism of Biden.

wdmso 02-24-2022 09:13 AM

12\23 I honestly think Putin was going to invade even if Trump won the election. due to Trump losing the election and with that lost went his free pass . He never Feared Trumps reaction. But now a NATO under a unified front he had to change gears . Being out of Afghanistan has only improved the US and NATO position to re deploy Troops and equipment…. And we have not treaty obligations with Ukraine
12\31

Back to Ukraine for a minute why is every conservatives talking head or Congress member cheering for Putin to invade Ukraine? Instead of getting behind the POTUS and show a United front towards Russia, when they know
Biden or Trump would have used force ..

Rep. Budd to Newsmax: Russian Aggression Due to 'Weakness' From Biden

that Russia would not be threatening to invade Ukraine if former President Donald Trump was still in office, attributing reports of their offensive to "weakness in the way that Biden has led."
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1/28 Gotta love the fact that Zelensky told Biden to STFU......that's awesome.

2-18 "Just because there's Russian buildup does not mean that we know or that there is a plan to actually invade," "I think this has just been an emotional push by the Americans

Grenell said Thursday during an appearance on Newsmax's "Spicer & Co."

wdmso 02-24-2022 09:14 AM

Trump told host Laura Ingraham. "In fact, some people are saying, 'Why didn't this take place over the last four years during our administration?' And it didn't for a very good reason and I'll explain that to you someday

LOL

PaulS 02-24-2022 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1223142)
Again, maybe your church is self serving. That sounds like an issue for you.

The data clearly shows that conservatives care plenty about people after they are born.

But they consistently try to cut funding for child care when elected. Am I going too fast for you?

Jim in CT 02-24-2022 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1223154)
Trump told host Laura Ingraham. "In fact, some people are saying, 'Why didn't this take place over the last four years during our administration?' And it didn't for a very good reason and I'll explain that to you someday

LOL

Do you think Putin threw a dart at a calendar and decided to invade on whatever day it landed on?

Or is there a reason in his mind, which makes sense to him, as to why he did it now?

PaulS 02-24-2022 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1223145)
For the second time, yes my church has meaningful expenses. Can you give me a list of charities that have zero expenses please?

Rent, utilities, logistics and infastructure and such cannot be paid for with hugs and fairy dust, I am sorry to break that to you, I assumed even you already knew that. Obviously I was wrong.

It goes beyond that you idiot. Am I going too fast for you?

The Dad Fisherman 02-24-2022 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1223133)

You're reading comprehension sucks.

But you're the idiot who constantly states that conservatives are more generous than liberals you idiot, not me or anyone else here.

Did anyone say it was you idiot?

Endowments are used to help keep tuiton down you idiot.

Their actions show it everyday. The idea that liberals want Blacks (and it is amazing how much you focus on blacks here - or use the word "urban" which to you means the same) to have more babies so they can "make" more money off the babies show loud and clear that you are a scummy person.

How's that you idiot?

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1223140)
So show me a study that says conservatives are more generous when it ISN"T self serving charities. That is what matters you idiot.

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1223157)
It goes beyond that you idiot. Am I going too fast for you?


Just wanted to save this so I have some solid examples of what adding constructive dialog to the conversation looks like. :rolleyes:

Yeah, all Trumps fault the country is so divided :rolleyes:
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Jim in CT 02-24-2022 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1223155)
But they consistently try to cut funding for child care when elected. Am I going too fast for you?

unnecessary child care.

Jim in CT 02-24-2022 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1223158)
Just wanted to save this so I have some solid examples of what adding constructive dialog to the conversation looks like. :rolleyes:

Yeah, all Trumps fault the country is so divided :rolleyes:
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Remember TDF, I am the angry one.

wdmso 02-24-2022 09:23 AM

Rudy Giuliani to Newsmax: 'Incompetent' Biden Looks Like 'Weakling, Dope'

no criticism of Putin Playing to the GOP Base

wdmso 02-24-2022 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1223156)
Do you think Putin threw a dart at a calendar and decided to invade on whatever day it landed on?

Or is there a reason in his mind, which makes sense to him, as to why he did it now?

its winter frozen ground good for Tanks no leaves on trees no concealment


But the I see you avoided what Trump said

I am still looking at what actions Trump or Republicans (besides the timing of Sanctions which themselves say wouldn't have stopped Him ) beyond Boots on the Ground would have stopped Him .. we have Trump's answer "Trump calls Russia-Ukraine crisis a 'European problem'" and in 2016 Trump He buys into Russian President Vladimir Putin's ridiculous theory that Ukraine is not a "real country. Ukraine as so universally corrupt that he Trumps paints Ukraine's new president, Volodymyr Zelensky, with this same brush of false allegations
and wait for it Trump didn't want Ukraine in NATO


I am convinced he Putin took these actions because Trump Lost the election . who would have given Putin what he wanted "No NATO in Ukraine " and other security guarantees



These Conservatives Are Defending Russia In Ukraine Crisis—And Trump Leads The Way

://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2022/02/23/these-conservatives-are-defending-russia-in-ukraine-crisis-and-trump-leads-the-way/?sh=dd2cfec78cf9

Jim in CT 02-24-2022 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1223133)
Endowments are used to help keep tuiton down you idiot.

I looked it up.

Harvard's endowment is $53 billion.

It's annual tuition plus room and board is $74,528.

They have 23,000 kids.

They could not charge a penny for tuition for any of those kids, and the endowment wouldn't run out for decades, and that's if it earned zero interest.

Yeah, that endowment is really keeping tuition down, Paul, you sure showed me..

Jim in CT 02-24-2022 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1223163)
its winter frozen ground good for Tanks no leaves on trees no concealment


But the I see you avoided what Trump said

So there were no winters in Russia from 2017 - 2021? Because Trump caused global warming, right??!!

Trump is an idiot. Fair enough?

PaulS 02-24-2022 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1223158)
Just wanted to save this so I have some solid examples of what adding constructive dialog to the conversation looks like. :rolleyes:Why should anyone here take his or your insults?

Yeah, all Trumps fault the country is so divided :rolleyes:
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S
Feel free. But what do you add other than calling people dumb or trying to insult people with memes?

So what exactly do you add here?

PaulS 02-24-2022 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1223160)
Remember TDF, I am the angry one.

You are. Every post (slight exageration) has insults. Why do you think anyone here should take your classless insults?

PaulS 02-24-2022 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1223165)
I looked it up.

Harvard's endowment is $53 billion.

It's annual tuition plus room and board is $74,528.

They have 23,000 kids.

They could not charge a penny for tuition for any of those kids, and the endowment wouldn't run out for decades, and that's if it earned zero interest.

Yeah, that endowment is really keeping tuition down, Paul, you sure showed me..

Again, you demonstrate your lack of intelligence so I'll help you by not going so fast:



About a third of Harvard’s annual operating budget comes from the endowment; last year, it contributed around $1.7 billion to Harvard, or over a third of the University’s entire operating budget. That spending supports all the vital functions of the University, from professorships to the library collection to financial aid. Harvard’s 12 schools are funded by the endowment to different extents: The Faculty of Arts and Sciences, for example, receives about 50 percent of its funding from the endowment, while the School of Public Health—many of its expenses provided for by a $350 million gift from 2014—takes only about 15 percent of its budget from the endowment.


Edit - and remember when you couldn't understand how E. Warren's Harvard pay wasn't paid for by student's tuition bc it was an endowed chair. It was like you had no understanding of what an endowed chair was.

And let's not forget the idiotic statement about trying to compare church's charity (maybe 3-5% of donations?) to what say the American Red Cross provides - prob. 85% - 95% of donations.


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