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Pete F. 07-09-2020 01:23 PM

Angela Merkel yesterday: "As we are experiencing first-hand, you cannot fight the pandemic with lies and disinformation any more than you can fight it with hatred or incitement to hatred... The limits of populism and denial of basic truth are being laid bare."

RickBomba 07-09-2020 01:30 PM

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Thank you, I always strive to be the best
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I’ll tell you one thing.

No matter what, if you don’t have Kev’s back, then I have no reason for you.

He’s one of the most amazing peeps in the world. We could all take a page from his book.
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Got Stripers 07-10-2020 01:17 PM

WHAT? Another daily high, hospitals running out of beds, I thought Trump said we are doing well; he isn’t lying to us is he?

Pete F. 07-10-2020 01:48 PM

Angela Merkel said the other day: "As we are experiencing first-hand, you cannot fight the pandemic with lies and disinformation any more than you can fight it with hatred or incitement to hatred... The limits of populism and denial of basic truth are being laid bare."
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spence 07-10-2020 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1196690)
Angela Merkel said the other day: "As we are experiencing first-hand, you cannot fight the pandemic with lies and disinformation any more than you can fight it with hatred or incitement to hatred... The limits of populism and denial of basic truth are being laid bare."
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25th Amendment

Trump’s leadership here has gone from incompetent to downright criminal. The white elephant is and always has been in the room.
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Got Stripers 07-10-2020 04:39 PM

My hope is Moscow Mitch and some of these other GOP boot lickers who have strapped themselves to the Trump luxury liner go down with the ship.

scottw 07-10-2020 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1196699)
25th Amendment

Trump’s leadership here has gone from incompetent to downright criminal. The white elephant is and always has been in the room.
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I hear the democrats are already planning another impeachment fiasco for right after he is re-elected....

Sea Dangles 07-10-2020 10:26 PM

The White Elephant is overrated

Pete F. 07-10-2020 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1196723)
I hear the democrats are already planning another impeachment fiasco for right after he is re-elected....

You been snorting Tweety’s #^&#^&#^&#^&?

In Rasmussen poll (Tweety’s favorite pollster) only 74% of Republicans are voting for him. Not to mention the many conservatives who don’t identify as Republicans anymore because of Tweety.
And now he’s commuting sentences rather than pardon, so his accomplices can still plead the fifth.
And as Tweety says that’s an admission of guilt.
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The Dad Fisherman 07-11-2020 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1196723)
I hear the democrats are already planning another impeachment fiasco for right after he is re-elected....

I heard they are already planning a Women’s March to protest all those rights that he didn’t take away from them the last time he was elected.
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spence 07-11-2020 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1196723)
I hear the democrats are already planning another impeachment fiasco for right after he is re-elected....

They should do it now, why wait.
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scottw 07-11-2020 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1196743)
They should do it now, why wait.
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we agree:bl:

Pete F. 08-07-2020 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1194112)
Unfortunately it's not untrue.

Wait till this afternoon when we see Tweety in his Rose Garden Presser try and pivot the attention from the virus to the riots.
Just like in the 1968 race, when Roger Ailes told Nixon to pivot from Vietnam to the post-King riots.
Nixon went full-on "law and order" not only about African Americans but also about the hippy proto-Bernie Bros in Chicago.

Ailes knew the secret "law and order" was a code for race and for culture anxiety in 1968. The language, the "Silent Majority" crap, the aggrieved whining is 1968 all over again.

Tweety wants the coverage of burning buildings. Tweety wants the cops v protesters.

By later today, you'll see posts about law and order backing a lawless and orderless Administration led by a criminal. Bannon, Miller, and the rest of the Trump fluffers ADORE this culture war.

They're ALREADY modeling how the rioting plays for campaign messaging, I promise you.

Also, 103,000 Americans are dead.

Now 60,000 more are dead, there are riots in the streets and Tweety is claiming to be the Law and Order President exactly as I predicted in May.

Remember what awful president allowed this American carnage to happen

Jim in CT 08-07-2020 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1198313)
Now 60,000 more are dead, there are riots in the streets and Tweety is claiming to be the Law and Order President exactly as I predicted in May.

Remember what awful president allowed this American carnage to happen

So governors and mayors have zero ownership? It's all on the president?

So the fact that the death rates are insanely high in the democrat-led states, means absolutely nothing. It's all because of a Republican president.

detbuch 08-07-2020 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1198313)
Now 60,000 more are dead, there are riots in the streets and Tweety is claiming to be the Law and Order President exactly as I predicted in May.

Remember what awful president allowed this American carnage to happen

Obama? He didn't restock the basic pandemic supplies and didn't continue keeping the plan in place going which was compounded by China delaying accurate news about the virus, and the WHO playing it down along with our politicians and media in the beginning.

Then Trump having to deal with it while being opposed by Dems and anti-Trumpers, and having to tightrope through a federated constitutional system which slows down and makes more complicated any federal action, especially compared with most of the other systems of government in which the executive and party in power are allowed more freedom and power to act in contrast to our system which gives the opposition more power and opportunity to politick against and make executive action more difficult.

Pete F. 08-07-2020 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1198321)
Obama? He didn't restock the basic pandemic supplies and didn't continue keeping the plan in place going which was compounded by China delaying accurate news about the virus, and the WHO playing it down along with our politicians and media in the beginning.

Tweety had 3 years to refill the basic pandemic supplies and didn't. His administration didn't pay attention when warned about other countries buying up the supplies that would shortly be needed.

It was Jan. 22, a day after the first case of covid-19 was detected in the United States, and orders were pouring into Michael Bowen’s company outside Fort Worth, some from as far away as Hong Kong.

Bowen’s medical supply company, Prestige Ameritech, could ramp up production to make an additional 1.7 million N95 masks a week. He viewed the shrinking domestic production of medical masks as a national security issue, though, and he wanted to give the federal government first dibs.

“We still have four like-new N95 manufacturing lines,” Bowen wrote that day in an email to top administrators in the Department of Health and Human Services. “Reactivating these machines would be very difficult and very expensive but could be achieved in a dire situation.”

But communications over several days with senior agency officials — including Robert Kad#^&lec, the assistant secretary for preparedness and emergency response — left Bowen with the clear impression that there was little immediate interest in his offer.



Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said on Thursday he was mistaken in claiming that the Obama administration had failed to leave a pandemic playbook for the Trump White House.
Too late to blame China and the WHO for Tweety's failures, you might be able to get a few weeks or at most a month out of that but we are the only developed nation that is still fighting a growing pandemic 4 months later. Probably Bidens fault

Then Trump having to deal with it while being opposed by Dems and anti-Trumpers, and having to tightrope through a federated constitutional system which slows down and makes more complicated any federal action, especially compared with most of the other systems of government in which the executive and party in power are allowed more freedom and power to act in contrast to our system which gives the opposition more power and opportunity to politick against and make executive action more difficult.

So you are admitting that Tweety was and is unable to manage our bureaucracy.
That's exactly why I have been Never Trump since his escalator descent.
Everything is wonderful in Tweety's world until there is a problem, then he finds someone to blame.
"I take no responsibility at all"
"You'll have to ask my lawyer"
“China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency.”

detbuch 08-07-2020 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1198326)
So you are admitting that Tweety was and is unable to manage our bureaucracy.

He's not supposed to manage our bureaucracy. It's called separation of powers. That's why government is usually in a state of gridlock. Which is not a bad thing. And was intended by the Founders.

You seem to be enamored with the notion of an all powerful President.

PaulS 08-07-2020 03:57 PM

A lot of times, Trump has numerously repeated over an over and over that "I alone can fix it".

RickBomba 08-07-2020 04:23 PM

Trump couldn’t fix his tire with Triple A.

Rich boys suck.
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detbuch 08-07-2020 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1198336)
A lot of times, Trump has numerously repeated over an over and over that "I alone can fix it".

That would be true if what needed fixing was a Presidential responsibility

Pete F. 08-07-2020 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1198332)
He's not supposed to manage our bureaucracy. It's called separation of powers. That's why government is usually in a state of gridlock. Which is not a bad thing. And was intended by the Founders.

You seem to be enamored with the notion of an all powerful President.

The President appoints political heads of the bureaucracy, some appointments by law need to be approved by Congress, he’s been failing to perform the required appointments. He’s also blocking the Constitutionally required congressional oversight of his administration. He is responsible for the spending of funds appropriated by Congress.
Contrary to his belief he doesn’t have great powers but does have great responsibility.
Unfortunately as I expected he has failed to rise to the occasion in any problem he has confronted, that’s the definition of a failed president.
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detbuch 08-07-2020 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1198326)
Tweety had 3 years to refill the basic pandemic supplies and didn't.

Why would he ask the CDC to order supplies if the agency didn't request it? How would he have known if, or even suspected if, there was a shortage?

His administration didn't pay attention when warned about other countries buying up the supplies that would shortly be needed.

He did a good job of having our manufacturers produce supplies.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said on Thursday he was mistaken in claiming that the Obama administration had failed to leave a pandemic playbook for the Trump White House.

A playbook, but no supplies. Obama didn't even follow the guidelines of his own playbook that required keeping an adequate stock. There was no air of emergency until the Chit hit the fan. Then everything had to be geared up from scratch.

Too late to blame China and the WHO for Tweety's failures, you might be able to get a few weeks or at most a month out of that but we are the only developed nation that is still fighting a growing pandemic 4 months later. Probably Bidens fault

So now your narrative is changing from he didn't start soon enough to now its too late. He started when it became clear that China and the WHO had lied. What is it too late for? Fauci thinks that we can turn the corner.

And this virus, like the flu, is not going away. We can, like the flu, mitigate it and contain it to a degree with vaccines and a degree of herd immunity, and further research.


Everything is wonderful in Tweety's world until there is a problem,

It's wonderful for most folks until there is a problem.

then he finds someone to blame.

It's good to find out who did it.

"I take no responsibility at all"

It used to be annoying, but is now farcical how you keep repeating that quote as if Trump constantly says it. The only time I recall it being used by him was in regards to to the CDC's lag in providing test kits. And, as an Atlantic article pointed out " in full context, Trump was referring only to the test kits." And, as well, the Atlantic article further said "in full context, and most-sympathetically read—[it] had a meaning you could understand and perhaps defend. None of that context or meaning survived . . . [and] . . . went from being [a phrase] to [a]weaponized symbol . . . You, in effect, are lying and stripping it of it's original context and weaponizing it in order to constantly bash Trump.


"You'll have to ask my lawyer"

That's a perfectly good thing to say. There are times when a lawyer should do the answering.

“China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency.”

That was pitiful attempt at diplomacy. He still had hopes of securing a trade deal with China. I've said many times that China was in no position to make a fair deal, unless the CCP wanted to commit political suicide. I think, rightly so, that has all gone sour now. But, who knows, if Trump gets re-elected, much to China's chagrin, and the rest of the world wises up about China's intentions, the CCP may have to come to some agreement or face a revolt.

detbuch 08-07-2020 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1198349)
The President appoints political heads of the bureaucracy, some appointments by law need to be approved by Congress, he’s been failing to perform the required appointments. He’s also blocking the Constitutionally required congressional oversight of his administration. He is responsible for the spending of funds appropriated by Congress.

Oh man . . . this is typical political in fighting between branches of government and the duel between political agendas.
You think Obama didn't do this? Or many other "Great" Presidents?


Contrary to his belief he doesn’t have great powers but does have great responsibility.
Unfortunately as I expected he has failed to rise to the occasion in any problem he has confronted, that’s the definition of a failed president.

That's your definition and your application. You may be partly right and greatly wrong. In either case, it's not enough to make anyone who really doesn't want the far left Progressives to get power vote for Biden.

Pete F. 08-07-2020 07:36 PM

70% of Americans and the rest of the world see Tweety’s failure to live up to his responsibility.
Nobody told me, it’s not my job and either failing to listen or picking #^&#^&#^&#^&ty advisors who won’t tell you anything you don’t want to hear would get any executive in business removed.
I expect it will work that way for Tweety too
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detbuch 08-07-2020 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1198353)
70% of Americans and the rest of the world see Tweety’s failure to live up to his responsibility.
Nobody told me, it’s not my job and either failing to listen or picking #^&#^&#^&#^&ty advisors who won’t tell you anything you don’t want to hear would get any executive in business removed.
I expect it will work that way for Tweety too
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Polls and people often get it wrong. Your negativity doesn't change the dynamics--it's going to be the Progressives vs. Trump. With all his warts and pimples, Trump is the only sane choice.

Pete F. 08-07-2020 08:09 PM

Tonight with Pandemic raging, millions of people out of work, and the president is is going to address it from his country club with a bunch of wealthy members who pay him personally.
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The Dad Fisherman 08-07-2020 08:30 PM

4 more years

Ivanka 2024
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detbuch 08-07-2020 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1198356)
Tonight with Pandemic raging, millions of people out of work, and the president is is going to address it from his country club with a bunch of wealthy members who pay him personally.
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Terrible as you try to make it seem, still no rational reason to vote for Biden.

detbuch 08-07-2020 08:51 PM

Apparently, those who think that the rest of the world has moved away from hydroxychloroquine for covid are misinformed: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...ve-therapy-do/

Pete F. 08-07-2020 09:21 PM

Trump: “We’re doing very well.”

Coronavirus deaths over the last 7 days:

Australia: 70
Canada: 37
France: 51
Germany: 49
Italy: 55
Japan: 27
Spain: 57
Sweden: 27
UK: 414

US: 7,189
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detbuch 08-07-2020 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1198362)
Trump: “We’re doing very well.”

Coronavirus deaths over the last 7 days:

Australia: 70
Canada: 37
France: 51
Germany: 49
Italy: 55
Japan: 27
Spain: 57
Sweden: 27
UK: 414

US: 7,189
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Would be similar numbers if Biden were President. No reason to vote in the way left Progressives.

Pete F. 08-08-2020 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1198364)
Would be similar numbers if Biden were President. No reason to vote in the way left Progressives.

Looking forward to the WH Counsel and DOJ explaining what legislation or constitutional provision permits a president through executive order to order unemployment insurance expenditures unauthorized by Congress.
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Pete F. 08-08-2020 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1198364)
Would be similar numbers if Biden were President. No reason to vote in the way left Progressives.

Looking forward to the WH Counsel and DOJ explaining what legislation or constitutional provision permits a president through executive order to order unemployment insurance expenditures unauthorized by Congress.
President Biden is looking forward to this taxing and spending power he didn't even know Republicans were fine with him having.
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detbuch 08-08-2020 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1198367)
Looking forward to the WH Counsel and DOJ explaining what legislation or constitutional provision permits a president through executive order to order unemployment insurance expenditures unauthorized by Congress.

It's probably a ploy to elicit Pelosi and Schumer to
stop him because he doesn't have the power to do it, but then they'll look bad because they won't agree to extend the insurance, and they'll darn sure stop Trump from doing so.


President Biden is looking forward to this taxing and spending power he didn't even know Republicans were fine with him having.
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That's a hoot. Progressives got this presidential power grab through unconstitutional exec. orders going a long time ago. We, on the "right" here have been warning that there would be a time when all the unconstitutional power that Progressives have shifted to the federal government would be under the reins of someone they feared.

But that won't stop them from making the shift complete. Any help in doing so by Trump will not go unappreciated. It doesn't seem to bother you. You're all in for President Biden, along with Pelosi, Schumer, and the rising Squad to help finish the job of making the federal government the go to solver for any and all problems, even the ones they create in greater quantity along the way.

And, of course, it's a given for you that they will solve everything that ails us . . . because they're smarter and better. That it might seem, on the surface, that problems have intensified under unconstitutional federal direction, that's just a mirage. It's like that you've got to crack eggs to make an omellete thing. In the long run, you and your eggs don't matter. An all powerful government that will tell us what is good for us, and make us do it--that is what's important. Because we are not capable of making our own omelletes.

Pete F. 08-09-2020 07:18 AM

Trump: [farts during a speech]

Detbuch: Only leftist elitists would claim that the President passed gas, when in fact his butthole was clearly speaking in the ancient Juncfood dialect of the Amirite language used in Syria 3,000 years ago.
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Pete F. 08-09-2020 07:23 AM

If you’re keeping track
Obama issued 276 executive orders over eight years. Before today, Trump had issued 177 over less than four. That's almost a 40% increase in the rate of issuance.
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detbuch 08-09-2020 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1198408)
Trump: [farts during a speech]

Detbuch: Only leftist elitists would claim that the President passed gas, when in fact his butthole was clearly speaking in the ancient Juncfood dialect of the Amirite language used in Syria 3,000 years ago.
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You almost got it right . . . except for about 32 words. What, BTW, is juncfood?

detbuch 08-09-2020 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1198409)
If you’re keeping track
Obama issued 276 executive orders over eight years. Before today, Trump had issued 177 over less than four. That's almost a 40% increase in the rate of issuance.
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Not keeping track. Meaningless numbers is your forte. It's not the number of EO's that matter. It's the constitutionality of each. An EO that falls within the power given to the executive branch in the Constitution is constitutional. When the EO started to be used by Progressives outside the constitutional power granted to the President, especially in the FDR presidency, it became an overused method to circumvent the role and wishes of Congress. That Precedent has been set with a vengeance.

A lot of Trump's EO's were removal of executive orders made by Obama. But, as some of us have been saying on this forum, those happy with the EO's made by Progressives (specifically by Obama) there would come a time when someone would come to power that they didn't like. Welcome to your political Frankenstein.

PaulS 08-09-2020 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1198409)
If you’re keeping track
Obama issued 276 executive orders over eight years. Before today, Trump had issued 177 over less than four. That's almost a 40% increase in the rate of issuance.
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When Obama did it, it was the end of the world. Now, not so much.

detbuch 08-09-2020 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1198431)
When Obama did it, it was the end of the world. Now, not so much.

Well, it it's not so much, then why did Pete bring it up?


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